Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[foxbat]

Someone is for sure going to reverse engineer the Kaleidescape and upload the entire catalogue to piracy sites. Almost guaranteed in my opinion.

p.s. I do not endorse piracy.

Highly unlikely something like this would ever happen. Even if someone did manage to exploit the device, the content on it will surely be watermarked with info on the device they came from. At the very least it would cause Kscape to brick the person's $3000+ device. The owner of the device would also be open to prosecution for infringement.
Edit: If such an exploit did exist I'd probably buy a Kscape as I would be able to actually have full control of my purchased movies and be able to back them up for personal use. Because as of now buying movies off there does not meet my definition of 'ownership'. Your purchases can be removed by Kscape for any reason. If Kscape goes under good luck downloading your purchases, etc etc

[daffie]

@foxbat
very true mate.

[flojo]

Someone is for sure going to reverse engineer the Kaleidescape...

Be careful, this is almost certainly a gimmick. Read the specs, or only the one spec of "every 4K movie available" in 192TB... yeah that's not happening.

I'm older so I've seen these gimmick players come and go for over 25 years and they never last. That said, they're great to find used after they've long gone out of business. About 10 years ago I found a very rare Escient Fireball with a 1000 disc carousel at a thrift store for $10usd. I have no idea how much it cost new back in ~2006 but I'm guessing about $5,000usd because everything Escient sold was crazy expensive. Escient went out of business in 2010: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escient

[foxbat]

Be careful, this is almost certainly a gimmick. Read the specs, or only the one spec of "every 4K movie available" in 192TB... yeah that's not happening.

They do not claim this anywhere. You can see file sizes on their site without signing in. Most are less than 100GB

[skull88]

KS is an expensive niche company (although they are now releasing lower-priced models), but it's definitely not snake oil. Hell, they even stopped claiming their audio is higher bitrate and just show it is same quality as lossless found on UHD BD now. However, foxbat and flojo do raise a legitimate question: what happens if KS suddenly goes out of business or is sold to some monster like Amazon and they shut their servers down? Do you now end up with an expensive brick, and your movies turn into "unavailable" relics of the past or more likely, credits towards Amazon or iTunes (lol). Perhaps some hope they allow offline decryption and download as a final show of kindness? I guess we will see in the fullness of time, but investing heavily in any niche product like this is always a gamble long-term.

[RESET_9999]

The only thing that worries me is if the SSD fails after the warranty expires. Apparently, they won’t replace it and will force you to buy another device.
Considering the cheapest models don’t have much storage, there will be a lot of downloading and deleting, meaning much higher drive usage.

[flojo]

They do not claim this anywhere.

I'm sorry, I thought you all were chatting about https://www.kaleidescape.com/ (which does state that). Which product are you all talking about?

https://www.kaleidescape.com/systems/mo ... s-servers/

[kazuma]

is kaleid digital only? what are the prices of the movie in the store? my region is blocked on the website.

[RESET_9999]

is kaleid digital only? what are the prices of the movie in the store? my region is blocked on the website.

Newer movies are quite expensive but the older ones are not that bad. This is in Canadian Dollar

[RESET_9999]

They do not claim this anywhere.

I'm sorry, I thought you all were chatting about https://www.kaleidescape.com/ (which does state that). Which product are you all talking about?

https://www.kaleidescape.com/systems/mo ... s-servers/

They release like five movies per week, so eventually even a large 192TB server will run out of space. But it doesn’t really matter, you can delete and download as many times as you want.

[kazuma]

i have a problem with composite and jellyfin on the ugoos.

composite: doesn't save my audio and subtitle choices if i resume the movie an another time.

jellyfin: doesnt recognize where i was left with the movie the last time.

how can i solve this?

[RESET_9999]

I never had this problem but I dont use composite or any addon anymore. The ugoos works 10times better with an SMB share: movies start playing faster and never crash.

[foxbat]

They do not claim this anywhere.

I'm sorry, I thought you all were chatting about https://www.kaleidescape.com/ (which does state that). Which product are you all talking about?

https://www.kaleidescape.com/systems/mo ... s-servers/

You're looking at the storage capacity of the device, not individual movie size

[skull88]

I think he was just commenting on the fact they won't be able to fit entire 4K catalogue on 192TB, which is fair, as they keep adding movies and have 3 different encodes for many, not sure how old that piece of marketing adcopy is. I am curious what the cut-off is for that tier though, but they probably just ask you if you want HDR, DV or SDR and if you're happy with the pre-selected list of titles or if you want certain movies to be included/excluded, lol. Maybe they will increase the size every year of the TB capacity? That's for the super rich folks anyway and/or those who have trash internet? haha.

[foxbat]

I think he was just commenting on the fact they won't be able to fit entire 4K catalogue on 192TB, which is fair, as they keep adding movies and have 3 different encodes for many, not sure how old that piece of marketing adcopy is. I am curious what the cut-off is for that tier though, but they probably just ask you if you want HDR, DV or SDR and if you're happy with the pre-selected list of titles or if you want certain movies to be included/excluded, lol. Maybe they will increase the size every year of the TB capacity? That's for the super rich folks anyway and/or those who have trash internet? haha.

Ah ok, that kind of makes sense. Wasn't sure what he was talking about.
I just added around 300TB to my storage array and that wasn't cheap, so I can't imagine what two of those Terra servers cost + every single movie in their catalog, sheesh.
Edit: Looks like the full system will set you back $90,000 USD