Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11011 Post by coopzr » Wed May 28, 2025 5:01 am

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Can you please explain how FEL interacts with generated DV?

I assume that if you generate your own DV the FEL gets discarded. However, some of your RPU releases say "movie name P7 FEL Only Generated T3 OSC" and now has me second guessing on how it works.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11012 Post by RESET_9999 » Wed May 28, 2025 10:58 am

deadchip12 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 1:55 am
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Could you let me know which rpu I should use for Presence (2024)? There are 3 of them in your folder. Thanks.

Presence.2024.2160p.AMZN.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.HDR.H.265 Generated T3.xml
Presence.2024.BD Generated T3.xml
Presence.2024.BD_Generated_T3 (frame by frame).xml
one is the usual shot by shot for amazon
one is the usual shot by shot for the bluray disc
and the last one is frame by frame because this movie has very long shots so you should use this one
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11013 Post by RESET_9999 » Wed May 28, 2025 11:06 am

coopzr wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 5:01 am
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Can you please explain how FEL interacts with generated DV?

I assume that if you generate your own DV the FEL gets discarded. However, some of your RPU releases say "movie name P7 FEL Only Generated T3 OSC" and now has me second guessing on how it works.
Nothing gets discarded. I just replace the L1-L2 and add L3 L8 L9
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11014 Post by bbeny123 » Wed May 28, 2025 1:07 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:06 am
Nothing gets discarded. I just replace the L1-L2 and add L3 L8 L9
So it's possible to replace all levels in a P7 FEL RPU? The FEL layer isn't "tied" to L1?

Interesting detail: based on my tests, cm_analyze is deterministic - for the same input and arguments, the generated RPU is always identical.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11015 Post by RESET_9999 » Wed May 28, 2025 1:32 pm

As long as you reconstruct the master for the DV analysis.
FEL contains the difference between the master and the HDR10 encode, which can be fully restored with the dovi_baker.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11016 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat May 31, 2025 12:46 pm

DV windows update is available outside the DEV mode, and surprisingly, it does true TV-LED.
Win10 still has the red push bug though.

For older TV, you might have to modify your EDID but I heard you can use the LG dolby access app to enable it.

https://github.com/balu100/dolby-vision-for-windows
https://www.reddit.com/r/LGOLED/comment ... leds_with/

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11017 Post by SamuriHL » Sat May 31, 2025 1:39 pm

Fascinating. I wonder if we'll see player updates on Windows to enable Dolby vision playback. That'd be sweet.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11018 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat May 31, 2025 1:43 pm

SamuriHL wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:39 pm
Fascinating. I wonder if we'll see player updates on Windows to enable Dolby vision playback. That'd be sweet.

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Well, Energy Player can already do DV MKV + lossless audio as well as P7 to P8 playback, but that would be nice with MPC-HC/BE + some sort of dovi_baker plugin for FEL... It might be possible one day...
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11019 Post by SamuriHL » Sat May 31, 2025 1:55 pm

For me personally I'm thinking jriver mc support. It would definitely be ideal, especially with fel.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11020 Post by pitrako » Sat May 31, 2025 3:13 pm

Why the dolby vision mode toggle doesn't work outside lg tv? It's possible to enable this on other brand tv like philips?, I have the toggle on windows but It does nothing.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11021 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat May 31, 2025 3:29 pm

pitrako wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 3:13 pm
Why the dolby vision mode toggle doesn't work outside lg tv? It's possible to enable this on other brand tv like philips?, I have the toggle on windows but It does nothing.
My G5 has a DV PC mode and is seen as DV capable on Windows. Without it, DV is not triggered, so you'll probably have to modify your EDID, see: https://github.com/balu100/dolby-vision-for-windows

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11022 Post by pitrako » Sat May 31, 2025 3:49 pm

My tv has dolby vision certification:
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11023 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat May 31, 2025 3:55 pm

strange that it doesnt work then...
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11024 Post by kazuma » Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:01 pm

Jellyfin plays dolby vision mkv from my lg g4 internal app. Does anybody knows if it does properly? (all profiles?)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11025 Post by RESET_9999 » Mon Jun 02, 2025 10:24 pm

kazuma wrote:
Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:01 pm
Jellyfin plays dolby vision mkv from my lg g4 internal app. Does anybody knows if it does properly? (all profiles?)
It won’t be better or worse than any other internal player/container, and once you get the webOS 2025 update, PLEX and the G4 native player should support DV MKV too.
In fact, all the TVs that are eligible for webOS 2025 should get DV MKV support.

PS: just ordered the kaleidescape. We will know soon enough how it compares to the UHD-BD quality :twisted:
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