1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

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Crazy Marty
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1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#1 Post by Crazy Marty » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:32 am

I just want the decrypted backup, not the titles repackaged. 1.6.16 gave me that option....

Please change this back to the old behavior!

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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#2 Post by Romansh » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:44 pm

The backup feature is, and has always been, for Blu-ray only.

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#3 Post by Crazy Marty » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:53 am

Nonetheless, I find the old behavior desirable.

I can't imagine that it would be difficult to restore it.

Nor can I imagine what it would hurt to restore it.

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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#4 Post by Romansh » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:14 pm

The behavior hasn't changed. The backup feature is still there, and just like in every version, is only available for Blu-ray.

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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#5 Post by Crazy Marty » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:52 pm

Not true. Using 1.6.16, I did backups of both BD and DVD, as they were both in the same retail package. Using 1.7.0, I am unable to make backups of DVD material.

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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#6 Post by setarip_old » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:39 pm

@Crazy Marty

Hi!
I did backups of both BD and DVD, as they were both in the same retail package.
Please explain further.

MakeMKV (and any Matroska-based program) Cannot make FULL DISC BACKUPS of DVDs, because Matroska is (still) not capable of processing DVD menus.




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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#7 Post by Crazy Marty » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:33 pm

I actually did it accidentally. There are several commercial packages that contain both BD as the main movie, plus BD containing bonus video (notably the X-Men series). After I made backups of both the main material and the bonus material (all BD), I proceeded to do the same for Fargo, which contains BD for the main material, and a DVD for a "digital copy". It was (too) late at night, and I didn't even think about it; when it gave me the opportunity to do a backup, I just clicked it, and it behaved exactly as it would have for a BD. That was with 1.6.16; with 1.7.0, I can't even force it from the command line.

I'd like to store all my video in exactly the same way (BD and DVD): with the same data laid out in the same way as on the optical media, only with scrambling/encryption removed.

If makemkv is not the tool that can do this for me, I may have to seek out commercial alternatives. However, until 1.7.0, it was exactly that tool. I find it very frustrating to have perfectly useful functionality disabled in a version of an application that does not permit me to continue using a (previous) version that does precisely what I desire.

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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#8 Post by setarip_old » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:16 am

Sounds like all you did was use the "Digital Copy"function and data from the disc - Which would have nothing to do with MakeMKV itself...




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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#9 Post by Crazy Marty » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:55 am

And why is that disallowed now when it was allowed previously?

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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#10 Post by crowfax » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:10 pm

You are incorrect. MakeMKV has never been able to use the "backup" feature on DVD's. You are mistaken.
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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#11 Post by setarip_old » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:17 am

@Crazy Marty
And why is that disallowed now when it was allowed previously?
Because not every Blu-ray disc includes the availability of a Digital Copy.

And again, Digital Copies have NOTHING to do with MakeMKV...


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Re: 1.7.0 does not offer option to "backup" a DVD?

#12 Post by Woodstock » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:39 am

I have been using MakeMKV since v1.5.4, and there has not been a "backup DVD" option in any version I've used.

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