Can someone get this noob going?

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markfleener
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Can someone get this noob going?

#1 Post by markfleener » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:07 am

I installed the program, but I'm afraid to start the 30 day trial before learning more.

I currently have Windows 10, will be upgrading to 11 soon.

This is the external drive I'll be using to dump to...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RX3343D

What all is needed for me to get ripping blue rays and 4K UHD DVDs, with the ability to turn subtitles on/off?

I think last time I learned about this over 10 years ago, one needed a certain file in the same folder as the video file to get the subtitles activated, but idk these days.

Will I need some sort of firmware installed onto the external drive or the internal C drive?

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#2 Post by dcoke22 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:19 am

Do you have an optical drive? Is it a LibreDrive compatible optical drive?

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#3 Post by Woodstock » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:21 am

The 30 day trial can be reset. There are people here that are several years into their "30 day trial", and complain every time the license key expires for a few days every couple of months.

Your version of Windows does not matter; I use Win7.

Subtitles depends on your playback environment. They're ripped, unless you tell MakeMKV not to rip them.

Main issue is going to be the drive you'll rip with. Some are blocked from ripping 4K disks; some require firmware changes to enable it. Ripping "just" Bluray disks works with regular BD drives.

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#4 Post by markfleener » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:40 pm

Well, this sounds great! I've yet to get the DVD drive. Now, I'm trying to figure out why the most expensive drive here (1st link) would be better than the $275 drive. When doing a comparison on the Pioneer site, I see that the most expensive drive is the only one that already had some sort of 4K compatibility before the computer guy does his magic firmware thing, and can't help but wonder if that could be a factor in whether or not there's ever any glitches in the future while trying various DVDs, you think? If the only benefit to the most expensive drive, is that, it runs more quietly, I don't think that'll be worth it, but idk?...

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17831

https://usa.pioneer/collections/optical-drives

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#5 Post by Woodstock » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:02 pm

Pioneer drives are considered very good, but... the manufacturer has blocked new drives from ripping 4K disks. If it was built on or after 12/22/2022, it won't work, with certain minor exceptions.

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#6 Post by dcoke22 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:18 pm

Even Billy will tell you the Pioneer BDR-S13UBK is enough. (I happen to have one of those drives and it is great.) The Pioneer BDR-S13U-X has more sound dampening and a few of the capacitors are a higher spec, but the extra $ it costs isn't worth it.

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#7 Post by markfleener » Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:22 pm

Woodstock wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:02 pm
Pioneer drives are considered very good, but... the manufacturer has blocked new drives from ripping 4K disks. If it was built on or after 12/22/2022, it won't work, with certain minor exceptions.

The link in my previous comment says...

"MakeMKV now supports pioneer drives for ripping UHD discs", but I just realized that UHD is not really the same as 4K 4096 x 2160, so would an LG drive be best then, which one?

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#8 Post by markfleener » Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:29 pm

.....and to add even more to my previous comment, I just realized that UHD not being 4K 4096 x 2160 is irrelevant, the Pioneer drives should be good now.

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Re: Can someone get this noob going?

#9 Post by flojo » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:16 pm

I bought 5 of these Pioneers for a CD loader project: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08R89FN61

Sadly for some strange reason they return all 0000's for CD sub channel data, so they don't work for the purpose I'm intending, but they do work for Blu-ray/UHD after flashing the appropriate Libre firmware.

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