Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

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OldGreyBeard wrote:
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Billycar11 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:00 am


you can email me or pm cooper
Thanks much! Will do.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

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OldGreyBeard wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:00 am
OldGreyBeard wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:23 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:00 am


you can email me or pm cooper
Thanks much! Will do.
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you can always email...
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

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Thanks Coopervid! My drive now reads UHD discs!
The flashing process was painless. Instructions were easy to follow.
Much appreciated!

Drive Information
OS device name: H:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-S12U
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: [redacted]
Firmware date: 2022-03-07
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 76

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F01
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02/ID43
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Disc Information
Label: BrotherhoodOfTheWolf
Timestamp: 2023-03-20 13:23:04
Protection: AACS2.0/C v76
Data capacity: 93.21 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM UHD
Number of layers: 3
Bus encryption flags: 80
IShopper42
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

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Hi All,

I am looking to pick up a Pioneer drive during these Black Friday sales. I have my eye on a Pioneer BDR-212DBK. I note people have previously been able to get these drives to become unlocked. Is there any manufacturiing date limitations on this freedom? Would a brand new and recent drive from Amazon be able to be liberated?

Is this the best Pioneer drive available that can be liberated these days? From the "Ultimate UHD Drives Flashing Guide Updated 2024" thread I was also considering a ASUS BW-16D1HT Pro or a LG WH16NS40. What would be the most recommended drive option for me to pursue during the sales?

In case it makes any differences I am located in Australia.

Regards,
Ian.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

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IShopper42 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:00 pm
Hi All,

I am looking to pick up a Pioneer drive during these Black Friday sales. I have my eye on a Pioneer BDR-212DBK. I note people have previously been able to get these drives to become unlocked. Is there any manufacturiing date limitations on this freedom? Would a brand new and recent drive from Amazon be able to be liberated?

Is this the best Pioneer drive available that can be liberated these days? From the "Ultimate UHD Drives Flashing Guide Updated 2024" thread I was also considering a ASUS BW-16D1HT Pro or a LG WH16NS40. What would be the most recommended drive option for me to pursue during the sales?

In case it makes any differences I am located in Australia.

Regards,
Ian.
the only pioneer that is likely to have old fw now retail is 212v or ud04
you will have to email me to flash the 212V

212DBK i have seen them with new FW so dont buy that one.
if not available in your area get one from marty he has pioneers with old FW in AU
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by IShopper42 »

Hi Billycar11,
Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:58 pm
the only pioneer that is likely to have old fw now retail is 212v or ud04
you will have to email me to flash the 212V

212DBK i have seen them with new FW so dont buy that one.
if not available in your area get one from marty he has pioneers with old FW in AU
I am no longer able to get a Pioneer BDR-212V, vinpowerdigital Australia are out of stock and will not be getting any more as they are no longer being made. The Pioneer BDR-212DBK is still around but you mentioned that they might not be unlockable.

I have sent a contact message to Marty but he has not yet responded.

Should the Pioneer option not pan out what is the going opinion on the LG WH16NS40?

Regards,
Ian.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by Billycar11 »

IShopper42 wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:06 am
Hi Billycar11,
Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:58 pm
the only pioneer that is likely to have old fw now retail is 212v or ud04
you will have to email me to flash the 212V

212DBK i have seen them with new FW so dont buy that one.
if not available in your area get one from marty he has pioneers with old FW in AU
I am no longer able to get a Pioneer BDR-212V, vinpowerdigital Australia are out of stock and will not be getting any more as they are no longer being made. The Pioneer BDR-212DBK is still around but you mentioned that they might not be unlockable.

I have sent a contact message to Marty but he has not yet responded.

Should the Pioneer option not pan out what is the going opinion on the LG WH16NS40?

Regards,
Ian.
marty has a site here: https://uhdenableddrives.com/

i cant recommend lg/asus rebrands at all pioneers really are that much better as long as we have them with old fw thats what i recommend.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by MartyMcNuts »

IShopper42 wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:06 am
Hi Billycar11,
Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:58 pm
the only pioneer that is likely to have old fw now retail is 212v or ud04
you will have to email me to flash the 212V

212DBK i have seen them with new FW so dont buy that one.
if not available in your area get one from marty he has pioneers with old FW in AU
I am no longer able to get a Pioneer BDR-212V, vinpowerdigital Australia are out of stock and will not be getting any more as they are no longer being made. The Pioneer BDR-212DBK is still around but you mentioned that they might not be unlockable.

I have sent a contact message to Marty but he has not yet responded.

Should the Pioneer option not pan out what is the going opinion on the LG WH16NS40?

Regards,
Ian.
Hi Ian,

I replied to your email this morning.
Cheers :D
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by IShopper42 »

Hi Marty,
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:52 am
I replied to your email this morning.
Nothing in my inbox yet. I don't have enough posts to use PMs.

Regards,
Ian.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by MartyMcNuts »

IShopper42 wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:45 am
Hi Marty,
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:52 am
I replied to your email this morning.
Nothing in my inbox yet. I don't have enough posts to use PMs.

Regards,
Ian.
Check your junk folder. I replied just after 8am.
Cheers :D
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by IShopper42 »

Hi Marty,
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:54 am
Check your junk folder. I replied just after 8am.
I had checked that when you reported having replied. Nothing from you found.

PMs are now enabled, I have PMed you my email address to make sure there wasn't a typo on your contact form.

Regards,
Ian.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by IShopper42 »

Hi Billycar11,

I am not sure I am going to be able to get a Pioneer BDR-212V at a good price so I have ordered a Verbatim 43888 while it was on Black Friday sale on Amazon. There *might* be a Pioneer BDR-212V available this week. If it becomes available I will grab it as well. Hopefully the team here can help me to ensure that both drives will be able to read the UHD disks.

Thanks for all the advice and guidance.

Regards,
Ian.
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Re: Pioneer BDR-212DBK vs BDR-212V

Post by Billycar11 »

IShopper42 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:02 am
Hi Billycar11,

I am not sure I am going to be able to get a Pioneer BDR-212V at a good price so I have ordered a Verbatim 43888 while it was on Black Friday sale on Amazon. There *might* be a Pioneer BDR-212V available this week. If it becomes available I will grab it as well. Hopefully the team here can help me to ensure that both drives will be able to read the UHD disks.

Thanks for all the advice and guidance.

Regards,
Ian.
the 43888 does not need to be flashed if you get the 212v email me for the flasher
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