Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Iam2smart
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10396 Post by Iam2smart » Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:53 pm

This is weird hoping you guys might answer this I used the script to bake pacific rim uprising FEL and the file came out much smaller than what was started its 26GB is that normal it says crf 15 which I know is pretty much visually lossless I'm just confused by it. Hope you can help Thanks!

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10397 Post by skull88 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:44 am

Some movies just compress very well, so I would guess it's fine. You could always run a 7-2 comparison with the script for your input vs. output encodes if you're unsure.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10398 Post by Iam2smart » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:10 am

skull88 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:44 am
Some movies just compress very well, so I would guess it's fine. You could always run a 7-2 comparison with the script for your input vs. output encodes if you're unsure.
Ok thanks Ill do that then.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10399 Post by RESET_9999 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:22 am

With CRF, the encoding quality is always the same regardless of the final bitrate/size. Some movies require more bitrate (grain, fullscreen, bright) and some others less( dark, digital, letterbox)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10400 Post by LV8HD » Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:34 am

@RESET_9999 I was taking a look at your the grade/master doc to check whether the WEB RPU for the movie The Bourne Legacy was injectable or not.
L1 is fine, but it seems like PQ differs between sources. Wouldn't such RPU, if injected, change the original creator intent?

PQ: https://slow.pics/c/tyiJdlBW

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10401 Post by RESET_9999 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:54 pm

thats apple stupid static color reshaping. All their DV contents have this difference: red always looks brighter/orangish. sometimes it's less apparent.
this static metadata is removed when you convert the rpu to P8. Apple has no respect to the creator's intent, I did a video about it on my youtube channel.
Never watch iTunes P5 web-dl if you care about accuracy, always convert it to P8.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10402 Post by ragico » Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:09 pm

What is Dolby Vision 10.1 profile associated to AV1 codec? And who is using it?
Thank you.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10403 Post by LV8HD » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:17 pm

Is it necessary to edit RPU mastering display metadata (not L6) when injecting, or is it better to leave it as it is?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10404 Post by RESET_9999 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:20 pm

never modify the RPU mastering display value (source pq) because dolby calculate the average pq and trims metadata quite differently according to the selected MDL.
see: https://slow.pics/c/rMmXrGeH

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10405 Post by kazuma » Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:47 pm

reset_9999, late night devil is one of the few cm 4.0 movies. how is the PQ performance on the ugoos? you said that the conversation was oversatured at te time.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10406 Post by RESET_9999 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:30 pm

first you should verify your RPU because if it was done with makemkv , it's probably wrong.
CMV4.0 works great on the ugoos and the problem with ''the conversation'' bluray is the VERY strong brightening trims that make the image brighter than the HDR master.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10407 Post by deadchip12 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:01 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:30 pm
first you should verify your RPU because if it was done with makemkv , it's probably wrong.
How do i verify my RPU?
Or should I just use yours?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10408 Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:15 am

compare the video framecount with the RPU framecount

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10409 Post by deadchip12 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:32 am

RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:15 am
compare the video framecount with the RPU framecount
Sorry I'm quite confused about this new makemkv issue. Which video framecount are you talking about?
Say I want to inject DV from web version to bluray version and already generated RPUs of both using your dovi_script, which framecounts do I have to look at here?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10410 Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:53 am

I'm talking about the original bluray folder that has authoring and muxing issues in MakeMKV like ''Late Night with the Devil''

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