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Billycar11
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by Billycar11 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:50 pm
JoeCoole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:23 pm
Hey All/Billy,
I'm new to the forum, so if this has been answered, please just point me to the right post. I'm trying to understand the difference between the Pioneer drives that Billy is selling. They all seem to rip at the same 4x speed. Why pick one over the other?
I have the LG WH14NS40 it is was working fine for the first 2 months, but now it won't detect any disc (BD, DVD, CD, etc.) I put into the drive. I don't think it's my OWC Mercury enclosure so I'm thinking about just getting a Pioneer drive, but not sure of the advantage of one over the other.
TIA,
Joe
Difference between them is drive build quality quietness and looks in price order.
That's all that's relevant for makemkv but the ux does have extra stuff for CD copying and playback and checking.
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JoeCoole
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by JoeCoole » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:26 pm
MKV Maker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:39 pm
JoeCoole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:23 pm
I'm trying to understand the difference between the Pioneer drives that Billy is selling. They all seem to rip at the same 4x speed. Why pick one over the other?
I have the LG WH14NS40 it is was working fine for the first 2 months, but now it won't detect any disc (BD, DVD, CD, etc.) I put into the drive. I don't think it's my OWC Mercury enclosure so I'm thinking about just getting a Pioneer drive, but not sure of the advantage of one over the other.
I cannot tell you where in this thread but I answered this question with links to Pioneer S13UBK and Pioneer S13J/U-X. If you can find that then most of the question shall be answered.
Thanks! I found it here
viewtopic.php?p=147142#p147142
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JoeCoole
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by JoeCoole » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:28 pm
Thanks Billy! I thought as much but the confirmation is helpful. Now I just have to wait for them to come into stock! Did I read that the Pioneers might not fit the OWC enclosure?
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MKV Maker
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by MKV Maker » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:57 pm
JoeCoole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:28 pm
Did I read that the Pioneers might not fit the OWC enclosure?
Correct. The Pioneer drive I have got here is excessively long from front to back to fit in the OWC enclosure. Both of my LG WH16NS40 drives came inside of them and although they are more nice than the DX2 they are insufficient geometrically. The positive aspect is the DX2 enclosure is not expensive. The negative aspects are it is not Thunderbolt 3 capable and it uses the infamous USB-B lead for cable-enclosure connexion. The one attribute about the enclosure I like the most is how tactile is the rocker switch. It is a big noisy switch encased in a frame of sorts.
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Coopervid
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by Coopervid » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:01 pm
MKV Maker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:57 pm
JoeCoole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:28 pm
Did I read that the Pioneers might not fit the OWC enclosure?
Correct. The Pioneer drive I have got here is excessively long from front to back to fit in the OWC enclosure. Both of my LG WH16NS40 drives came inside of them and although they are more nice than the DX2 they are insufficient geometrically. The positive aspect is the DX2 enclosure is not expensive. The negative aspects are it is not Thunderbolt 3 capable and it uses the infamous USB-B lead for cable-enclosure connexion. The one attribute about the enclosure I like the most is how tactile is the rocker switch. It is a big noisy switch encased in a frame of sorts.
You just need to bend 2 tabs and the Pioneer will fit.
https://mega.nz/file/mV5mCDhT#T794dO696 ... l_wcIH352A
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Billycar11
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by Billycar11 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:13 pm
Coopervid wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:01 pm
MKV Maker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:57 pm
JoeCoole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:28 pm
Did I read that the Pioneers might not fit the OWC enclosure?
Correct. The Pioneer drive I have got here is excessively long from front to back to fit in the OWC enclosure. Both of my LG WH16NS40 drives came inside of them and although they are more nice than the DX2 they are insufficient geometrically. The positive aspect is the DX2 enclosure is not expensive. The negative aspects are it is not Thunderbolt 3 capable and it uses the infamous USB-B lead for cable-enclosure connexion. The one attribute about the enclosure I like the most is how tactile is the rocker switch. It is a big noisy switch encased in a frame of sorts.
You just need to bend 2 tabs and the Pioneer will fit.
https://mega.nz/file/mV5mCDhT#T794dO696 ... l_wcIH352A
Or drill holes in the bottom
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MKV Maker
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by MKV Maker » Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:18 pm
Billycar11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:13 pm
Or drill holes in the bottom
All of these solutions seem quite destructive just to make a drive fit. Is not it best to get a comparable howbeit less nice enclosure for a proper fit? For the S13J/E/U-X noise and vibration are not issues whatever. That unit is so quiet, viz. it is almost silent.
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8BitWit
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by 8BitWit » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:10 am
Billy was fast and professional and the BDR-S13U-X I ordered from him works like a charm. Excited to dive deeper into this hobby!
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Subscriptions are evil. Spend you life's savings on a NAS instead!
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Jeff_WNY
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by Jeff_WNY » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:38 pm
Just ordered a BDR-S13UBK from Billy and the process could not have been any smoother. Looking forward to continuing my collection for my QNAP. Longtime MakeMKV user - First Post
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fridaylastchance
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by fridaylastchance » Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:39 pm
Hey everyone. Is this drive easy to flash?
https://www.amazon.ca/BDR-2213-Utilizin ... d_source=1
I am from Canada, and therefore, I cannot order one from Billy. I am not sure what the current firmware on this drive. I just don't want to order it, then find out that it can't be flashed. My apologies if this question has already been answered.
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Woodstock
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by Woodstock » Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:29 pm
If the drive has firmware dated 12/22/2022 or later, no.
Most likely, on Amazon, it will be too new.
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fridaylastchance
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by fridaylastchance » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:39 am
Woodstock wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:29 pm
If the drive has firmware dated 12/22/2022 or later, no.
Most likely, on Amazon, it will be too new.
So the firmware has to be within a certain time period, otherwise, it cannot be flashed?
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Woodstock
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by Woodstock » Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:08 pm
Correct on the time range. And, unfortunately, you cannot tell what a drive has in it without opening the box. The vendors that hang out here and sell drives source them rather carefully to make sure they have the older firmware.
As for DVDFAB, I cannot say; have not tried it. I suspect, though, that it will face the same limitations.
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Billycar11
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by Billycar11 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:15 pm
fridaylastchance wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:10 am
And another question, will Dvdfab work on these drives?
Pioneers dont do UHD in dvdfab they will do regular Blu-ray and DVD fine in it.
But pioneers only do UHD with makemkv and xreveal.