Can you provide a photo? I don't have the movie but I may try later.
Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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Does it matter if I use a different source from yours and at the end it passes all the checks?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:00 pmMy cmv4.0 source for this movie is MAX and not MA(movie anywhere)
I compared the L1 plot of my Blue Beetles 2023 (source: MA) to the L1 plot of yours (source: MAX) and they were exactly the same, except for some numbers (red circles):


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Hi everyone, some time ago I asked if anybody here knew how to change maxcll and maxfall values within the hevc stream itslef without the need to re-encode it. Well ,I've finally figured it out.
Thus, a question comes to my mind: how important are these values in the actual playblack? I've seen many movies having those values wrong and sometimes not having them at all.
Thus, a question comes to my mind: how important are these values in the actual playblack? I've seen many movies having those values wrong and sometimes not having them at all.
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nodeadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:51 pmDoes it matter if I use a different source from yours and at the end it passes all the checks?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
They don't matter for DV playback for sure, and possibly not in some contexts even for HDR fallback, as Paramount for example continues to not add MDL metadata for their UHD BDs. Curious what the method you figured out is, regardless, please share if you're willing to. Thank you kindly. Cheers.LV8HD wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:11 pmHi everyone, some time ago I asked if anybody here knew how to change maxcll and maxfall values within the hevc stream itslef without the need to re-encode it. Well ,I've finally figured it out.
Thus, a question comes to my mind: how important are these values in the actual playblack? I've seen many movies having those values wrong and sometimes not having them at all.
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Is there a way for me to check them myself or is it too complicated?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:00 pmI haven't checked all the moviesdeadchip12 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:37 pmIf a movie is not in any of the red/green/yellow list in your spreadsheet, e. g. Creed III, does it mean this transfer process won't work or you haven't tested with that movie yet?
So, just to confirm: profile 8 itunes web-dl releases are now perfectly usable right? What about profile 5 itunes web-dl releases? Should I avoid them because of the color error (mentioned in your spreadsheet: color difference(orangish red) is caused by apple stupid static color reshaping in the RPU. Once removed (when converted to P8), the colors match.)?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:00 pmL4 is when I do P8 hybrid, it doesn't matter when you transfer 3-8-9 to a P7 rpu since they already have L4.deadchip12 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:37 pmJust checked the first file (the higher bitrate one) and there's no Level4 line, along with these:
L5 Left offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Right offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Top offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Bottom offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
All iTunes webdl are missing L4 and L5
Sorry, by "all the checks" I only meant the checks I see at the end of the Transfer CMV4.0 bloc video tutorial. Are there other checks I should do, considering I'm using a difference source, like brightness difference, color error, etc.?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:38 pmnodeadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:51 pmDoes it matter if I use a different source from yours and at the end it passes all the checks?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
the apple color reshaping metadata only applies to DV profile 5 playback. The dolby visions levels (1-2-3-4-5-6-8-9-11) are a different thing and are always the same regardless of the DV profile so yes, any cmv4.0 rpu can be transfered to a cmv2.9 rpu as long as they come from the same DV analysis (same L1/L2).deadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:24 pmSo just to confirm: profile 8 itunes web-dl releases are now perfectly usable right? What about profile 5 itunes web-dl releases? Should I avoid them because of the color error (mentioned in your spreadsheet: color difference(orangish red) is caused by apple stupid static color reshaping in the RPU. Once removed (when converted to P8), the colors match.)?
just download the webdl and check if it's cmv4.0 and the same Level 1 as the bluray disc DV ?Is there a way for me to check them myself or is it too complicated?
all that matters is the metadata themselve. It can work only if they are the sameSorry, by "all the checks" I only meant the checks I see at the end of the Transfer CMV4.0 bloc video tutorial. Are there other checks I should do, considering I'm using a difference source, like brightness difference, color error, etc.?
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Thanks again for all the explanation so far.RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:48 pmthe apple color reshaping metadata only applies to DV profile 5 playback. The dolby visions levels (1-2-3-4-5-6-8-9-11) are a different thing and are always the same regardless of the DV profile so yes, any cmv4.0 rpu can be transfered to a cmv2.9 rpu as long as they come from the same DV analysis (same L1/L2).deadchip12 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:24 pmSo just to confirm: profile 8 itunes web-dl releases are now perfectly usable right? What about profile 5 itunes web-dl releases? Should I avoid them because of the color error (mentioned in your spreadsheet: color difference(orangish red) is caused by apple stupid static color reshaping in the RPU. Once removed (when converted to P8), the colors match.)?
just download the webdl and check if it's cmv4.0 and the same Level 1 as the bluray disc DV ?Is there a way for me to check them myself or is it too complicated?
all that matters is the metadata themselve. It can work only if they are the sameSorry, by "all the checks" I only meant the checks I see at the end of the Transfer CMV4.0 bloc video tutorial. Are there other checks I should do, considering I'm using a difference source, like brightness difference, color error, etc.?
I'm checking frame difference for Blue Beetles 2023. Doing it manually by looking at random scene cuts in Avisynth+ and I'm seeing 0 frame difference. Yet the L1 plots between the original bluray and stream version are not in synced (ignore the red circles please). What could be the reason?




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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
as I said earlier, what matters is that your scene cuts match the BL. The framecount mismatch makes the graph look different.
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Ok so I finished transferring cmv4.0 for Blue Beetles 2023 and am doing the final checks. The RPU_CMV4.0_L3L8L9_transfered.bin's L1 plot matches the original bluray file's. I exported the scene cuts using verify_sync2 file and am checking random frames at the beginning and the end of the final mkv file to make sure they are the first frames of a new shot. I found one that isn't: Frame 657. Frame 656 and 657 are still in the same shot. I checked randomly many other frames and they are all the first frame of a new shot. Why is this frame 657 not?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:00 amas I said earlier, what matters is that your scene cuts match the BL. The framecount mismatch makes the graph look different.
Edit: Found another one that is not the first frame: frame 5503. The similarity between this and frame 657 is that they both seem to be part of a very wide shot.
Also, some of the frames listed, e.g. 49, are from early in the movie and they are just part of a black screen sequence.





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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Maybe automatic scene-cut detection? It happens sometimes, most of the time, a flash or fast movement can cause that and it doesn't really matter. I've seen this many times on retail RPU.
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Why are some web releases cmv2.9 instead of cmv4.0 I wonder?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
most of the newer ones are 4.0 at least.
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@RESET_9999 I'm testing Aquaman.and.the.Lost.Kingdom.2023 and during workflow 1-1 (inject RPU_CMV4.0_L3L8L9_transfered.bin to original bluray file) I get this missing L5 lines. Should I just press enter to skip?


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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
You can't skip it, this workflow was designed to always fix incorrect L5.
Just edit it to 0,0,0,0
Just edit it to 0,0,0,0