Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[aboulfad]

Look in "tvservice-dvb.pak.unsquashfs/mnt/lg/tvservice/pqldb/dolby" (not in rootfs) in the extracted firmware, that's where 2018/2019 models have it.

Thanks, per prior search in a different path for 2017 E7 the highest Tmax I found was 430nits. If indeed E7 or other newer series are using default DV config files shipped with firmware for TV-Led, that would imply for older gen a much lower Tmax is used by default for TV-led. 2017 E7 as per rtings & few publicly shared DV calibration configs is around 700-760nits.

The retrieved (from EDID) VSVDB(Dolby) Tmax is 350 nits which is oddly also a very low value for player-led. I realize my TV is old but just curious what's up !

PS: path for E7 DV OLED firmware file

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06.10.30.01-HE_DTV_W17H_AFADATAA/tvservice-atsc.pak.unsquashfs/mnt/lg/tvservice/pqldb/dolby/OLED_All.txt

[chros]

Look in "tvservice-dvb.pak.unsquashfs/mnt/lg/tvservice/pqldb/dolby" (not in rootfs) in the extracted firmware, that's where 2018/2019 models have it.

The retrieved (from EDID) VSVDB(Dolby) Tmax is 350 nits which is oddly also a very low value for player-led. I realize my TV is old but just curious what's up !

PS: path for E7 DV OLED firmware file

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06.10.30.01-HE_DTV_W17H_AFADATAA/tvservice-atsc.pak.unsquashfs/mnt/lg/tvservice/pqldb/dolby/OLED_All.txt

Just checked it in "mnt/lg/tvservice/pqldb/dolby/C1_OLED.txt", Tmax = 374 in PictureMode=2 (DoVi Cinema) and only PictureMode=12 has Tmax = 350 entry (not sure which preset/vsvdb this is).

Note that these default Tmax values not necessarily mean the peak or 10% patch window peak values, they are set according to the underlining factory 1D LUT in DoVi presets. E.g. on the 55"-77" G2 the gamma 2.2 factory 1D LUT is the same across all SDR and HDR10 presets and they use 990 value to compensate it in HDR10 (and DoVi as well), while you could only measure 920 nits on better days with 10% patch window and only 870 after 2000 hours later.

[aboulfad]

… Note that these default Tmax values not necessarily mean the peak or 10% patch window peak values, they are set according to the underlining factory 1D LUT in DoVi presets. E.g. on the 55"-77" G2 the gamma 2.2 factory 1D LUT is the same across all SDR and HDR10 presets and they use 990 value to compensate it in HDR10 (and DoVi as well), …

The newer TVs & their associated DV config files do have more details. Thanks for the explanation! There must be somewhere for the E7 where this higher Tmax “compensated” for HDR (HDR10/DV) resides. It’s possible it is baked in the firmware libs and not explicitly specified in config files as in later TVs.

[WEZZEBE]

Is there anything that can play Dolby Vision Profile 7 FEL and MEL from mkv-files with high quality Audio as well (Or coming soon)? Or from the full 4K BLU-RAY Rip [ISO/folder structures]. I don't care for a Menu so that's not needed.

And not via Plex please.
Preferred via Usb-SSD or NAS-Connection Without the NAS needing to do work except transfering the file.

1) Maybe like a self made Mini-PC or so that could do the trick? With certain software or so.
Or
2) Any Media-Player coming soon?

Thx in advance for the info

[afarvvik]

any idea why a P8 DV video in EAC3-MP4 format is playing in HDR on a LG c8?

this is the mediainfo of the movie

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GENERAL
Format
MPEG-4
Duration
1 h 48 min
Bitrate
16.8mb/s
Size
12.8 GiB
VIDEO
Format
HEVC (10 bits)
Resolution
3 840 × 1 608
Aspect ratio
2.40:1
Frame rate
23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Bit rate
16.0mb/s
HDR format
Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Color primaries
BT.2020
Transfer characteristics
PQ
AUDIO
1.
English English / E-AC-3 / 8ch / 768kb/s / E-AC-3 7.1
ENCODE SETTINGS
cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / numa-pools=12 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x1608 / interlace=0 / total-frames=156665 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=0 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / temporal-layers=0 / no-open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=240 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / no-limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=16000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=2 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv-maxrate=32000 / vbv-bufsize=40000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=3 / aq-strength=1.00 / aq-bias-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(8500,39850)B(6550,2300)R(35400,14600)WP(15635,16450)L(40000000,50) / cll=683,136 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0 / conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass / no-mcstf / no-sbrc

tried converting it to m2ts using tsmuxer as I do with mkv files but it gives a error at 60% -"Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps"

thanks

[Hellboy.]

There is any compatibility or playback difference between "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06" and "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.10"?
Thanks.

[kaledi]

I'm trying to use dovi_tool and follow the workflows to described here. I have a windows 11 machine, but can't for the life of me work out where to put the dovi_tool.exe file so that is addressable by the command line. Can anyone enlighten me?

[Nucleus]

I'm trying to use dovi_tool and follow the workflows to described here. I have a windows 11 machine, but can't for the life of me work out where to put the dovi_tool.exe file so that is addressable by the command line. Can anyone enlighten me?

Quick and easy method, download and merge the "Command Prompt Here" registry tweak and merge it into the Windows registry (double click the .reg file or right click it and "Merge"), it will apply system wide, then just right click in the folder where dovi_tool.exe is and "Open Command Prompt Here". Pretty sure this should work in Win 11 too.

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https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/158472-add-remove-command-prompt-open-here-context-menu-windows-10-a.html

[sw5163]

Same story on my PC monitor(samsung 400nits) with the Energy player.

Hi RESET, I still notice raised black level when using Microsoft Hardware Video Decoder in the Energy player. I've tried both on Oled G8 monitor and S95C TV. Does this happen to your samsung monitor? I began to worry there's something wrong with my settings.

Currently, I set output to 10bit Full Range RGB HDR in the AMD control panel, and Full Range input in samsung menu. I've tried restoring all other settings to default, but it doesn't change anything. Do you know if any other setting that may cause the problem?

[afarvvik]

any idea why a P8 DV video in EAC3-MP4 format is playing in HDR on a LG c8?

this is the mediainfo of the movie

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GENERAL
Format
MPEG-4
Duration
1 h 48 min
Bitrate
16.8mb/s
Size
12.8 GiB
VIDEO
Format
HEVC (10 bits)
Resolution
3 840 × 1 608
Aspect ratio
2.40:1
Frame rate
23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Bit rate
16.0mb/s
HDR format
Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Color primaries
BT.2020
Transfer characteristics
PQ
AUDIO
1.
English English / E-AC-3 / 8ch / 768kb/s / E-AC-3 7.1
ENCODE SETTINGS
cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / numa-pools=12 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x1608 / interlace=0 / total-frames=156665 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=0 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / temporal-layers=0 / no-open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=240 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / no-limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=16000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=2 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv-maxrate=32000 / vbv-bufsize=40000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=3 / aq-strength=1.00 / aq-bias-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(8500,39850)B(6550,2300)R(35400,14600)WP(15635,16450)L(40000000,50) / cll=683,136 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0 / conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass / no-mcstf / no-sbrc

tried converting it to m2ts using tsmuxer as I do with mkv files but it gives a error at 60% -"Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps"

thanks

hi @RESET_9999

any idea why this is happening? according to your google sheet P8 should work in the C8.

[RESET_9999]

Hi RESET, I still notice raised black level when using Microsoft Hardware Video Decoder in the Energy player. I've tried both on Oled G8 monitor and S95C TV. Does this happen to your samsung monitor? I began to worry there's something wrong with my settings.
Currently, I set output to 10bit Full Range RGB HDR in the AMD control panel, and Full Range input in samsung menu. I've tried restoring all other settings to default, but it doesn't change anything. Do you know if any other setting that may cause the problem?

I'll check on my C2. On the Samsung LS49CG932SNXZA , it seems fine. I use 444 12bit and the video I did on youtube about this player was captured/played in 422 12bit.

any idea why this is happening? according to your google sheet P8 should work in the C8.

idk, your mediainfo is incomplete. I guess your file is mp4 with id hev1.. remux to ts or use my script to convert to mp4 with id dvhe

There is any compatibility or playback difference between "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06" and "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.10"?
Thanks.

the .10 .06 .07 etc.. is related to the resolution/framerate max pps
viewtopic.php?p=121936#p121936

[thirdmoon]

@RESET_9999

I had a 10min HDR clip, and I generated DV in Resolve but forgot to set output blanking at 42/42. While injecting DV, I edited L5 to 42/42. Is the DV correct here or I have to generate the XML from resolve again?

[sw5163]

On the Samsung LS49CG932SNXZA , it seems fine.

Do you have Game Mode on or off on that monitor?

I use 444 12bit and the video I did on youtube about this player was captured/played in 422 12bit.

I just tried YUV 444 12bit, still the same. Both P5 and P8.1 contents have raised black on my setup. I also tried your black test file.
Playing directly in Samsung internal player:

internal.player.JPG (3.33 MiB) Viewed 12276 times

Playing in Movies & TV app:

movies&tv.JPG (3.21 MiB) Viewed 12276 times

These photos were shot with 6400 ISO and 32 seconds exposure, the green is actually dark grey and wasn't that bad to naked eyes. I'm going to check with another Nvidia laptop later in case it's an AMD APU problem.

[powdeau]

@RESET_9999

Can you please tell me what the difference is between these two RPU of yours?
Generated_OSC.bin
DV_L2_original.xml

Thanks!

[RESET_9999]

@RESET_9999

I had a 10min HDR clip, and I generated DV in Resolve but forgot to set output blanking at 42/42. While injecting DV, I edited L5 to 42/42. Is the DV correct here or I have to generate the XML from resolve again?

well your video min_pq metadata wont be as accurate. It's not really a big deal though.

@RESET_9999

Can you please tell me what the difference is between these two RPU of yours?
Generated_OSC.bin
DV_L2_original.xml
Thanks!

the rpu bin file is with all the L2 trims removed and the XML is the original metadata with trims.
The generated trims have a brightening effect in low nits scenes and some people like it and don't care about the creator's intent.

These photos were shot with 6400 ISO and 32 seconds exposure, the green is actually dark grey and wasn't that bad to naked eyes. I'm going to check with another Nvidia laptop later in case it's an AMD APU problem.

wow, ok no there's no such issue on my setup (nvidia). Blacks are actually better than in HDR10 when I put them side by side.
And no crush, I can see 65 flashing. I forgot to check on the C2 but if it was as bad as in your photo, I would have noticed the other day.

this is on the Samsung G9