Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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I dont know, click on the links you quoted maybe? I did 3 new samples in total now.

One more test file, The L2 trim offset bug is a lot more obvious in this one because I took the latest Mission Impossible which has a huge positive lift well over 0.025 so it should be also a good test for raised black bars on device that ignores L5.

P5 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HcrR1q ... drive_link
P8 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ndR6_S ... sp=sharing

01/19/2024/21:38:23.977000000 Metadata: WARNING List of WARNINGS:
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WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 878da093-c182-467d-9789-a3820925e8de @[72-143]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 7cb187ca-8223-452c-9c1b-a5ea6630f57b @[144-215]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 7cb187ca-8223-452c-9c1b-a5ea6630f57b @[144-215]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 553c4b3c-7089-4ade-8c9b-946ebb3155e8 @[216-287]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 7151a44a-04dc-4da7-ac40-b590300040a4 @[360-431]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 4916d773-7b0b-47be-9901-1e6fa8a2eac0 @[432-503]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = bb1e45bd-98c9-4821-ac25-c960724fb227 @[504-575]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 393b8fb1-ee7b-436e-8ec5-40bf25e2e76d @[576-647]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 0417d25c-77b0-4705-89bb-d05f1f4fdb31 @[648-719]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 86c6e0a8-bf93-488b-b795-a79fb5ecf13c @[720-791]
WARNING: Positive Level2 lift value at shot: UniqueID = 694710e5-e4a9-45b3-bd7b-8b7f2de37e53 @[792-863]
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01/19/2024/21:38:23.978000000 metafier: No issues found in the Metadata

[aboulfad]

I dont know, click on the links you quoted maybe? I did 3 new samples in total now.

Weird, I did click on the new links & it downloaded yesterday the ‘true detective’ samples, Maybe some weird browser caching issue. Now I see it’s ’role play’.

I am having trouble in general focusing on subtle differences when switching from Oppo to E7, as choosing media on E7 & all the clicking & DV negotiating/switching takes around 10s. What’s your methodology or do you take photos/videos to compare after ? Some differences are very evident and easy to spot/recall (eagle beak, multi pattern, …) but some others aren’t.

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it's not complicated to see. positive Trim offset just doesnt work on HDMI device TV-LED.
Also switching from plex/kodi to bluray input takes less than 2 sec on my setup.

I am having trouble in general focusing on subtle differences when switching from Oppo to E7, as choosing media on E7 & all the clicking & DV negotiating/switching takes around 10s. What’s your methodology or do you take photos/videos to compare after ? Some differences are very evident and easy to spot/recall (eagle beak, multi pattern, …) but some others aren’t.

[aboulfad]

Yeah sorry, my TV is old & it's super clunky to switch. Even w auto-play/resume disabled, when I switch back to it it start playing the video,...
Anyways, I can't see any changes (darker) or I don't know what to see or my TV internal player doesn't show those differences (focusing on "true detective"). I'd say both Oppo & TV internal player look very close. If I ever figure out how to take perfect photos, I can share.

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no photo is needed, you should see a visible change for L1 + L2 (no offset) on your TV internal player but not on your Oppo or ATV in tv-led. Same story if you take any of the patterns quietvoid and I did but these new test files are with real content.

True Detective sample: Offset response is quite obvious on the internal TV player
Role Play: almost unnoticeable, the vegetation in the background is brighter with L2 offset on the internal TV player
Mi death reckoning: you cannot miss this one, there is a huge positive lift.
Batman (just added in my GD): very slight change with trims offset on TV internal player only

[JCLG8]

Does LLVD have crushed and/or raised blacks?

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if the EDID min target is not 0nits, yes, LLDV has raised black on all the devices I tested.
Crushed, I don't know

[JCLG8]

Is the EDID min target based on the video file or the TV?

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TV

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Where can I see my TV's EDID?

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With hdmi devices like HDfury vertex or raspberry pi + Pgen.
There might be other ways I'm not aware of but I know that there is some cheap HDMI splitter that can let you upload any edid(I have one for any brightness).

which TV? All the Sony LLDV EDID I've seen had the min pq target set to 0

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It's a Panasonic GX800, its a bit old, from 2019.

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No idea. Do you see raised or crushed black?

you can use this pure black test file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EoqK5- ... drive_link
and this black clipping pattern for crushed black: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PWdxtV ... drive_link

[JCLG8]

No idea. Do you see raised or crushed black?

you can use this pure black test file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EoqK5- ... drive_link
and this black clipping pattern for crushed black: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PWdxtV ... drive_link

I will definitely check those out. I was testing the eagle beak L1 L2 test file both in DV and HDR10 and I noticed that when looking at an angle where more artifacts are visible, on a dark spot there was a bigger black area on the DV viewing than on the HDR viewing. Not big, only a little bigger and probably not even noticable when you watch normally.
And in a movie I was testing in a couple scenes some shadows just seemed a little tinted and not completely dark but it could have just been how those shadows are and it was normal, it could just be me. Also in one of those shots I saw anothing similar thing like the beak video, when looked at from an angle, on a shadow there was a slightly bigger black area with DV on than with HDR10.

[Epedemic]

@ aboulfad not related to CW but could you test this file please on your E7 internal player and oppo? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GQ6CHY ... sp=sharing
i did a new FEL test file which makes it more obvious when FEL is decoded. Works well on my x700.

Thank you for this masterpiece It helped me a lot with my current headache:
I decided to switch out my Shield Pro with a CCwGTV, as i have grown annoyed with the red push on the Shield (and lack of FEL support), and needed a gf-friendly way to watch as much content as possible while playing it in as good quality as possible. (I have an X700 for TrueHD Atmos & DTS-X stuff)

I have come to the conclusion to use the Monsoon Kodi build, which seems to correctly play everything i throw at it (Including FEL, as verified by this test file), and passes through 5.1 channel DTS-HD/Atmos to lossless LPCM. Plex also kinda works, but is finicky, and i really prefer any kodi build over plex. All official Kodi versions & the Maven Kodinerds builds does not play FEL at all.

Am i on to something here, or is it just another red herring in a long line of such?