Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[JCLG8]

Hi, I recently bought a Sony X700. I am testing it with some of the test files particularly the eagle beak file and I am not sure if it's in LLDV or TV-LED. When it shows the chroma weight there is no change from the original shown before.

which TV ?
My LG C2 have a bug and Chroma weight is not working regardless of tv-led / player-led. It doesn't even work with the internal player.

Its a Panasonic GX800, a VA LCD from 2019.

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I dont know much about calibration (i paid someone to calibrate my TV) but maybe in TV-LED, only the internal TV DV configuration is used and the EDID target brightness is ignored?? And the EDID is only useful to the player when it does LLDV?

That would explain the odd result I see when I use high brightness TV-LED edid on my cheap 600nits vizio TV.

[aboulfad]

DV calibration for LG TVs generates a file that you can load onto the TV. Although not recommended, I tried that calibration file in the past on my OLED. The Tmax in it must have been measured via calman & other required equipment.

Your theory that EDID info/LLDV player may make sense as those two entries are below Low Latency ...

Low Latency: Standard + Low Latency
Target Max Luminance: 350 cd/m^2
Target Min Luminance: 0.00099200 cd/m^2

[quietvoid]

I dont know much about calibration (i paid someone to calibrate my TV) but maybe in TV-LED, only the internal TV DV configuration is used and the EDID target brightness is ignored?? And the EDID is only useful to the player when it does LLDV?

That would explain the odd result I see when I use high brightness TV-LED edid on my cheap 600nits vizio TV.

That is how it's supposed to work, the EDID is only used by external HDMI devices for detection/player-led.
Internally it's using the config file which is why it's always been preferred to have TV-led playback.

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thanks for confirming, it makes sense.

What is the internal config for tmax in our C2

[JCLG8]

Hi, I recently bought a Sony X700. I am testing it with some of the test files particularly the eagle beak file and I am not sure if it's in LLDV or TV-LED. When it shows the chroma weight there is no change from the original shown before.

which TV ?
My LG C2 have a bug and Chroma weight is not working regardless of tv-led / player-led. It doesn't even work with the internal player.

Hi, sorry I posted twice on accident. You can look the model I wrote. A few posts up

[aboulfad]

…What is the internal config for tmax in our C2

L o l, I thought that’s what EDID was reporting based on all the previous posts, back to square 0. It must be hidden in the TVs firmware. I don’t recall seeing anything in service menu or ez adjust of my E7.

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Its a Panasonic GX800, a VA LCD from 2019.

Since it's quite a old TV, it might not support TV-LED.

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L o l, I thought that’s what EDID was reporting based on all the previous posts, back to square 0. It must be hidden in the TVs firmware. I don’t recall seeing anything in service menu or ez adjust of my E7.

https://github.com/chros73/bscpylgtv

[JCLG8]

Its a Panasonic GX800, a VA LCD from 2019.

Since it's quite a old TV, it might not support TV-LED.

Ah that sucks. Am I missing a lot if I can only use LLDV?

[quietvoid]

thanks for confirming, it makes sense.

What is the internal config for tmax in our C2

It's apparently 810 nits AFAIK. 990 nits for the G2.
Mine measures around 815-825 nits IIRC.

[aboulfad]

https://github.com/chros73/bscpylgtv

Interesting, maybe get calibration commands can tell us something. I didn’t calibrate my E7, I applied someone else’s calibration file. I’ll browse and see if there’s something there I can use on my 2017 E7 (nope I get asyncio.exceptions.TimeoutError, most likely doesn't work with older models).

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Ah that sucks. Am I missing a lot if I can only use LLDV?

Not much since Chroma Weight is rarely used in real content.
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/fold ... KFJwFxnDt-
( I put ''chroma weight'' in the filename when I see one)

[JCLG8]

Ah that sucks. Am I missing a lot if I can only use LLDV?

Not much since Chroma Weight is rarely used in real content.
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/fold ... KFJwFxnDt-
( I put ''chroma weight'' in the filename when I see one)

Ok thanks I'll check those out. I saw Vincent's video saying how the TV-LED is better because the colors are more accurate. But I have also seen comments here that that video doesn't mean much. Is TV-LED more accurate for the colors or does that video not matter?

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Better color mapping, maybe? but I wouldn't say LLDV has inaccurate colors as long as the player doesn't have bugs (shield red push) and Chroma Weight is not used by the colorist.

The difference shown in Vincent's video is definitely Chroma Weight and the Spears and Munsil montage he used is a VERY bright grade(4000+) which is not representative of the average Movie HDR grading (0-1000nits) so indeed, his video doesn't mean much for real content viewing.