Camacho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:53 am
I am a bit confused in one section it says pioneers are not supported and another says they are, are they currently supported? If so what makes them more superior to the other drives listed?
I was scoping out a WH16NS40 ,for UHD ripping, that is 60 US, or should I hold out for a pioneer?
For ripping UHDs, a subset of Pioneer drives are supported. Recently, Pioneer released firmware updates for those drives specifically to disable MakeMKV. So, most likely, if you buy a new Pioneer drive, even if it is model that could support UHD ripping, it will have too new of firmware and MakeMKV won't be able to rip UHDs with it. Regular blu-rays or DVDs should work though.
If you want a Pioneer drive, one of the sellers here on this forum might have one that they have tested to work with MakeMKV. That is currently the most reliable way to get a Pioneer drive that works with MakeMKV.
Hopefully, in the future, MakeMKV will be updated to overcome the current Pioneer firmware and getting a Pioneer will become easier. No ETA on when that might happen however.
The sellers on this forum report a very low incidence of bad drives with the Pioneers (they test every drive they sell). And, if you're interested in burning optical media, the reports are that the Pioneers are much better than the other brands. With something like the LG WH16NS40 you might get one that works fine, perhaps for years. But you might also get a bad drive right out of the box. Or you might get one that fails at a young age. In these post pandemic times, the sellers report that the quality of those drives has seemed to go down. If you go that route, be sure to buy from a place with a decent return policy.
In my experience, some discs just don't like some drives. I have 3 drives, one LG, one ASUS (which is made by LG), and one Pioneer. When I have trouble with a disc in my 'main' drive, it usually works in one of the others. I think folks with extensive collections often end up with multiple drives since they give you an extra chance at a successful rip with problematic discs and, since MakeMKV can use more than one optical drive at the same time, can speed up the process of ripping a pile of discs (like TV shows, for example).
Pioneers are great. The LG might work fine. No one drive is going to be perfect.