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djc5166
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FF7 Advent Children Complete

#1 Post by djc5166 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:59 pm

Just submitted a dump for Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete UHD

LurkerSteve
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Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#2 Post by LurkerSteve » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:08 pm

Is there something going on with this specific movie? I sent my logs a few hours before this thread popped up. Usually it's been updated within a day in my experience.

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Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#3 Post by jayper » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:51 pm

Sometimes it's a day. Sometimes it's a week and sometimes it's a month. It's not a fully automated process, it requires developer attention and can take time.

phaedrus
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Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#4 Post by phaedrus » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:39 pm

New to the forum so apologies if I mis-post (am reviewing the guidelines now)

That said -- really appreciate makemkv and this forum. Great source of knowledge. I used to do a lot with encoding pre-blue ray -- this forum made it really easy to jump back in.

I don't get an error with Advent Children UHD...I get a 75g mkv that plays as rgb boxes with some debug info in the lower-left corner. Has anyone seen this?

Many thanks

angelde90
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Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#5 Post by angelde90 » Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:56 pm

Having Trouble reading this disk. Any Advice?

01004:0000 Debug logging enabled, log will be saved as file://C:\Users\angel/MakeMKV_log.txt
Using 262272KB for read cache.
Network access is ENABLED, CURL version 7.72.0/Schannel/1.41.0 (x86_64-pc-win32) , proxy server not set.
WinCdArb=v1.2.0_tiny win(x64-release)
DEBUG: Code 3 at kx/mIn.tna?p(7TlCFJMk\o%:29395310
SDF v07e: HL-DT-ST_BD-RE__WH16NS60_1.00_211704251756_KLOK8HG3251
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at FCX0qMEkxy~zx6FI:29403291
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at 8el9f;_>,M$e/Q/.:213130559
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001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at 8el9f;_>,M$e/Q/.:213130559
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at FCX0qMEkxy~zx6FI:29403291
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at 8el9f;_>,M$e/Q/.:213130559
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001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at FCX0qMEkxy~zx6FI:29403291
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at 8el9f;_>,M$e/Q/.:213130559
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at FCX0qMEkxy~zx6FI:29403291
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at 8el9f;_>,M$e/Q/.:213130559
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at FCX0qMEkxy~zx6FI:29403291
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 100864261 at 8el9f;_>,M$e/Q/.:213130559
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kril89
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Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#6 Post by kril89 » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:03 pm

Did this ever get fixed? Because I can't seem to be able to get my copy to work.

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Saving 1 titles into directory C:/Users/SR20S/Videos/Movies
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'OS error - The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device' occurred while reading '\Device\CdRom0' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:INVALID FIELD IN CDB' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts' at offset '30806372352'
Failed to save title 1 to file C:/Users/SR20S/Videos/Movies/Final Fantasy VII- Advent Children_t01.mkv
0 titles saved, 1 failed[/codw]

Woodstock
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Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#7 Post by Woodstock » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:07 pm

Your error messages look a lot like the drive hit a power limit while speeding up. This causes it to shut down... leading to lots of read errors.

Is it a USB drive? Is it powered by the USB? If so, does the USB connection have enough amps available?

kril89
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:00 pm

Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#8 Post by kril89 » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:27 pm

It's a external USB drive but with it's own power source

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRCCV44?ps ... ct_details

This is the one I have along with a firmware updated LG WH14NS40. I might slow the speed down and see if that fixes the problem. It does go up way higher than 8x which for a UHD is prob. bad news.

kril89
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Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:00 pm

Re: FF7 Advent Children Complete

#9 Post by kril89 » Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:43 pm

Woodstock wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:07 pm
Your error messages look a lot like the drive hit a power limit while speeding up. This causes it to shut down... leading to lots of read errors.

Is it a USB drive? Is it powered by the USB? If so, does the USB connection have enough amps available?
Well it’s seems like the drive itself was the problem. I ripped a 3 more movies and on the 4th the drive died. Now it won’t ready any UHD discs not sure on any others. I’ll leave it off for awhile and see what happens.

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