Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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speeddemon
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by speeddemon » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:51 am

Gatorman wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:51 am
How would I import the AVS file into StaxRip? Can I add it to an existing preset?
You can use an existing preset and just drag/drop the AVS file onto Staxrip after selecting your preset.
Iam2smart wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:53 pm
I was able to get everything setup I just have one question its about the MaxCLL, MaxFall & Mastering Display Values I didn’t know where to get the stats from so I just used the rpu info file generated from the script, for example the movie I’m tinkering with is Mission Impossible Rogue Nation and it lists the L1 MaxCLL as 10000.00 nits and the MaxFALL as 205.90 would those be the correct values I’m looking for because I know I need the FEL Values and the info file lists it’s for the Profile 7 FEL so I’m assuming that’s correct.
I'm guessing that's just a situation where the credits maxed out at 10,000-nits since the colorist ignored that part of the Base Layer. I'm not 100% sure what I would do in that case... I'd be tempted to just set the MaxCLL at 4,000-nits, but I'd be curious what @RESET_9999 or @quietvoid thinks about this?
Iam2smart wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:53 pm
Then the mastering display kind of has me stumped the info file lists 0.0050/4000 but that didn’t work in staxrip so I used this I found on the internet

G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,1)

But I Have no idea if that’s correct, so if I could learn how to obtain that info that would be helpful everything else was pretty cut & dry Thanks
In that case you would replace L(10000000,1) with L(40000000,50).

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Iam2smart » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:01 pm

speeddemon wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:51 am
Gatorman wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:51 am
How would I import the AVS file into StaxRip? Can I add it to an existing preset?
You can use an existing preset and just drag/drop the AVS file onto Staxrip after selecting your preset.
Iam2smart wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:53 pm
I was able to get everything setup I just have one question its about the MaxCLL, MaxFall & Mastering Display Values I didn’t know where to get the stats from so I just used the rpu info file generated from the script, for example the movie I’m tinkering with is Mission Impossible Rogue Nation and it lists the L1 MaxCLL as 10000.00 nits and the MaxFALL as 205.90 would those be the correct values I’m looking for because I know I need the FEL Values and the info file lists it’s for the Profile 7 FEL so I’m assuming that’s correct.
I'm guessing that's just a situation where the credits maxed out at 10,000-nits since the colorist ignored that part of the Base Layer. I'm not 100% sure what I would do in that case... I'd be tempted to just set the MaxCLL at 4,000-nits, but I'd be curious what @RESET_9999 or @quietvoid thinks about this?
Iam2smart wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:53 pm
Then the mastering display kind of has me stumped the info file lists 0.0050/4000 but that didn’t work in staxrip so I used this I found on the internet

G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,1)

But I Have no idea if that’s correct, so if I could learn how to obtain that info that would be helpful everything else was pretty cut & dry Thanks
In that case you would replace L(10000000,1) with L(40000000,50).
Great thanks I’ll wait to see what @RESET_9999 says

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:24 pm

you should use the rpu maxcll/fall and MDL but it doesn't really matter since you're going to watch it in DV.
If you're going to watch on a low nits HDR10 TV/PJ, don't waste your time baking FEL because you will just increase the amount of tonemapping your display has to do.

EG from workflow 2-2:
RPU mastering display: 0.0050/4000 nits
RPU content light level (L1): MaxCLL: 4531.59 nits, MaxFALL: 90.35 nits


@all
Speaking of dovi baker, anyone experienced weird green frame? I've checked hundreds of movies and only the two Transformers movies have this issue.
It's not a dgdecode issue because the same is happening if I use FFMS2.

@quietvoid since you're using your own method and not the DV baker, have you ever had this issue?

this is Transformers.Dark.of.the.Moon.2011
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by quietvoid » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:50 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:24 pm
@quietvoid since you're using your own method and not the DV baker, have you ever had this issue?

this is Transformers.Dark.of.the.Moon.2011
No, sample?
FWIW DoviBaker is missing implementation details which make it unusable for profile 5 files, so it's possible some profile 7 also have issues.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:45 pm

quietvoid wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:50 pm
No, sample?
FWIW DoviBaker is missing implementation details which make it unusable for profile 5 files, so it's possible some profile 7 also have issues.
strange that it's happening only with the two Transformers movies. I also tried directly from the untouched m2ts. It looks like the rpu mapping flashes with the homemade FEL test files.

sample: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzPm7z ... sp=sharing

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by quietvoid » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:12 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:45 pm
strange that it's happening only with the two Transformers movies. I also tried directly from the untouched m2ts. It looks like the rpu mapping flashes with the homemade FEL test files.

sample: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzPm7z ... sp=sharing
I can't reproduce the issue even with DoviBaker, it looks normal but different from my method.
Haven't tested if my method is still accurate though.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:37 pm

quietvoid wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:12 pm
I can't reproduce the issue even with DoviBaker, it looks normal but different from my method.
Haven't tested if my method is still accurate though.
Did you check the whole clip ?? its just some random frame that flashes. The first flash happens at frame 68.
if yes then I don't see how its possible and why its happening ONLY with the transformers movies. As I said I checked hundred of movies with the same avs script.


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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by quietvoid » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:18 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:37 pm
Did you check the whole clip ?? its just some random frame that flashes. The first flash happens at frame 68.
if yes then I don't see how its possible and why its happening ONLY with the transformers movies. As I said I checked hundred of movies with the same avs script.
Yes I see them with DoviBaker only, my method looks fine.
It's probably a bug in DoviBaker.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by skull88 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:26 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:37 pm
quietvoid wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:12 pm
I can't reproduce the issue even with DoviBaker, it looks normal but different from my method.
Haven't tested if my method is still accurate though.
Did you check the whole clip ?? its just some random frame that flashes. The first flash happens at frame 68.
if yes then I don't see how its possible and why its happening ONLY with the transformers movies. As I said I checked hundred of movies with the same avs script.


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Just curious, how did you catch this originally, if it's only certain frames? Is it not possible other movies from that period and studio might have similar issue if passed through, but the exact frames just never showed up for a movie you haven't watched yet or are they obvious on DV plot or some other way without scrubbing/watching entire file?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:28 pm

skull88 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:26 pm
Just curious, how did you catch this, if it's only certain frames? Is it not possible other movies have it but the exact frames just never showed up or are they obvious on DV plot or some other way without scrubbing/watching entire file?
with workflow 7-1 , I export 50 screenshots and got at least 10 faulty frames with both Transformers movies.
none of the other FEL movies I checked had this issue.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by skull88 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:30 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:28 pm
skull88 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:26 pm
Just curious, how did you catch this, if it's only certain frames? Is it not possible other movies have it but the exact frames just never showed up or are they obvious on DV plot or some other way without scrubbing/watching entire file?
with workflow 7-1 , I export 50 screenshots and got at least 10 faulty frames with both Transformers movies.
none of the other FEL movies I checked had this issue.
Ah, okay. I wonder if these specific frames have any unique/unusual data if you look at the .json from the FEL RPU? Otherwise, it may just be something in the HEVC encoding and DoViBaker combination bug I guess. Strange find though.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Iam2smart » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:38 pm

I'm having an issue where I'm trying to inject Web DV into Blu-ray HDR10 I'm using National Lampoons Christmas Vacation and I followed the video tut but I keep getting this error to reset displays to all level9 to the mastering display and it also states the L2 Metadata Validation test fails and L9 Metadata Validation test fails any ideas? Thanks

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:20 pm

Iam2smart wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:38 pm
I'm having an issue where I'm trying to inject Web DV into Blu-ray HDR10 I'm using National Lampoons Christmas Vacation and I followed the video tut but I keep getting this error to reset displays to all level9 to the mastering display and it also states the L2 Metadata Validation test fails and L9 Metadata Validation test fails any ideas? Thanks
AFAIK, there's only an iTunes webdl available and it's cmv2.9 (no L9).
So I guess you have a MA webdl ? can you post the result of the metafier validation please? (workflow 2-8)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Iam2smart » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:43 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:20 pm
Iam2smart wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:38 pm
I'm having an issue where I'm trying to inject Web DV into Blu-ray HDR10 I'm using National Lampoons Christmas Vacation and I followed the video tut but I keep getting this error to reset displays to all level9 to the mastering display and it also states the L2 Metadata Validation test fails and L9 Metadata Validation test fails any ideas? Thanks
AFAIK, there's only an iTunes webdl available and it's cmv2.9 (no L9).
So I guess you have a MA webdl ? can you post the result of the metafier validation please? (workflow 2-8)
Here is the attached file I tried to find the iTunes Version but this is the only one I found from the places I use

Edit. I realized it didnt even attach the file here is a google drive link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P_JtiJ ... drive_link

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Iam2smart » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:47 pm

I also have the issue with Elf just no L9 error its a bunch of L2 errors but I have the same file that is listed in the screenshots on the Google Sheets So maybe its my setup?

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