Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
IMO, It's better to generate a new RPU in resolve because:
1- if you use hdr10plus, your min_pq will always be 0
2- HDR10plus avg_pq is VERY different than what Dolby Vision produces. DV has some specific calculations for the avg_pq.
3- with Resolve, you can make true CMV4.0 metadata (with L3) which improves tone mapping.
1- if you use hdr10plus, your min_pq will always be 0
2- HDR10plus avg_pq is VERY different than what Dolby Vision produces. DV has some specific calculations for the avg_pq.
3- with Resolve, you can make true CMV4.0 metadata (with L3) which improves tone mapping.
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Thanks! Understood.RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:37 pmIMO, It's better to generate a new RPU in resolve because:
1- if you use hdr10plus, your min_pq will always be 0
2- HDR10plus avg_pq is VERY different than what Dolby Vision produces. DV has some specific calculations for the avg_pq.
3- with Resolve, you can make true CMV4.0 metadata (with L3) which improves tone mapping.
Another question... have you done much research yet comparing Resolve Analyzed output with typical metadata that includes L2/L8 trims?
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Yesspeeddemon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:02 pmAnother question... have you done much research yet comparing Resolve Analyzed output with typical metadata that includes L2/L8 trims?
For some reason, resolve does not export the L8 trims similar to when you set your project to cmv2.9 which does not export L2.
So for the resolve cmv4.0 output, a cmv4.0 device won't have any trims effect: only L1 + L3 but for a cmv2.9 device, automatic L2 trims will brighten everything below the tv capabilities and darken every thing above.
BTW, I think only one time I've seen an actual CMV4.0 rpu with active L8... strangely, everything else doesn't have any L8 trim or it's set to 2048 no effect.
There's a bunch of test files in my GD in which you can test pretty much everything DV related.
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/fold ... V0E3VVkhiC
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Is the L2 part actually true for both CMv2.9 and CMv4 analysis when outputting both when outputting CMv2.9 or CMv4? Or, do you just strip the L2 trims when processing with your script anyways?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:22 pmSo for the resolve cmv4.0 output, a cmv4.0 device won't have any trims effect: only L1 + L3 but for a cmv2.9 device, automatic L2 trims will brighten everything below the tv capabilities and darken every thing above.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
trims are reset to 0 or removed depending on your script configuration. You can set the script to keep the trims but by default, they are overwritten as explained a couple of days ago in this threadspeeddemon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:24 ampart actually true for both CMv2.9 and CMv4 analysis when outputting both when outputting CMv2.9 or CMv4? Or, do you just strip the L2 trims when processing with your script anyways?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
And you recommend the trims being overwritten for the reasons you stated earlier, correct?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:03 amtrims are reset to 0 or removed depending on your script configuration. You can set the script to keep the trims but by default, they are overwritten as explained a couple of days ago in this threadspeeddemon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:24 ampart actually true for both CMv2.9 and CMv4 analysis when outputting both when outputting CMv2.9 or CMv4? Or, do you just strip the L2 trims when processing with your script anyways?
But, just to make sure I understand correctly, can you confirm the following with regards to Resolve?
- CMv2.9 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1+L2
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv4 output = L1+L3 in CMv4 or L1+L2 in CMv2.9 Fallback
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
That's correct.speeddemon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:09 amAnd you recommend the trims being overwritten for the reasons you stated earlier, correct?
But, just to make sure I understand correctly, can you confirm the following with regards to Resolve?
- CMv2.9 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1+L2
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv4 output = L1+L3 in CMv4 or L1+L2 in CMv2.9 Fallback
Actually, the L8 100nits trim is exported but it's set to 0 and obviously not useful to DV playback.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Which of these typically look most accurate to the original Profile 7?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:12 amThat's correct.speeddemon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:09 amAnd you recommend the trims being overwritten for the reasons you stated earlier, correct?
But, just to make sure I understand correctly, can you confirm the following with regards to Resolve?
- CMv2.9 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1+L2
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv4 output = L1+L3 in CMv4 or L1+L2 in CMv2.9 Fallback
Actually, the L8 100nits trim is exported but it's set to 0 and obviously not useful to DV playback.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Reset may be you could do one of your scripts without DRAG AND DROP where we could just put file into the folder and choose programm we needRESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:12 amThat's correct.speeddemon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:09 amAnd you recommend the trims being overwritten for the reasons you stated earlier, correct?
But, just to make sure I understand correctly, can you confirm the following with regards to Resolve?
- CMv2.9 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv2.9 output = L1+L2
- CMv4 Analysis & CMv4 output = L1+L3 in CMv4 or L1+L2 in CMv2.9 Fallback
Actually, the L8 100nits trim is exported but it's set to 0 and obviously not useful to DV playback.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
depends on how the original p7 is I guess? (cmv2.9 or cmv4.0 / trims or not)speeddemon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:52 pmWhich of these typically look most accurate to the original Profile 7?
the best you can hope as I said, is cmv4.0 without trims and no point using anything else
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
this won't happen.
Drag and drop is a much better approach because your input can be anywhere in your PC (different drives)
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
@RESET_9999
Salut, sorry for the maybe silly question but how do I get a DV P8 when baking in FEL using your 6-9 workflow? In changelog you say you added in option to export in DV but I still only get option for HDR or SDR.
Salut, sorry for the maybe silly question but how do I get a DV P8 when baking in FEL using your 6-9 workflow? In changelog you say you added in option to export in DV but I still only get option for HDR or SDR.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
P7 rpu will be converted to P8 automatically so once the encoding is completed, just remux the hevc with mkvtoolnix or tsmuxer and DV P8 will be present.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Ok, thanks very much! Is there an easy way to tell for myself what FEL titles have this issue?RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:29 amP7 rpu will be converted to P8 automatically so once the encoding is completed, just remux the hevc with mkvtoolnix or tsmuxer and DV P8 will be present.
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