Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8416 Post by dom61 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:48 am

Mrmorrison wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:00 am
Hi everyone. I recently bought a new PC with Windows 11. To my surprise I found that drag and drop on the command prompt doesn't work and as a result I can't use the script at all. Has anyone encountered this problem and solved it?
It works perfectly for me with W11 b22621.1848
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8417 Post by MartyMcNuts » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:26 am

Mrmorrison wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:00 am
Hi everyone. I recently bought a new PC with Windows 11. To my surprise I found that drag and drop on the command prompt doesn't work and as a result I can't use the script at all. Has anyone encountered this problem and solved it?
Works fine for me on Win 11
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8418 Post by Mrmorrison » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:57 am

Thanks everyone for your feedback. I don't understand why my prompt behaves like this. Then it opens only with administrator permissions.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8419 Post by dom61 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:01 am

Mrmorrison wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:57 am
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I don't understand why my prompt behaves like this. Then it opens only with administrator permissions.
NO! launch it normally without administrator permissions.
Otherwise, you can't drag & drop
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8420 Post by Mrmorrison » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:22 am

dom61 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:01 am
Mrmorrison wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:57 am
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I don't understand why my prompt behaves like this. Then it opens only with administrator permissions.
NO! launch it normally without administrator permissions.
Otherwise, you can't drag & drop
Unfortunately I can't do it. However I open it, it always opens with administrator permissions. By default... I've always been used to using "open as administrator" for this thing. Now it opens in this mode automatically and I'm afraid that's why I can't drag and drop

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8421 Post by Mrmorrison » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:28 am

Resolved! I don't know why but the user account settings were changed to the lowest point.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8422 Post by BadSector81 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:40 pm

Mrmorrison wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:00 am
Hi everyone. I recently bought a new PC with Windows 11. To my surprise I found that drag and drop on the command prompt doesn't work and as a result I can't use the script at all. Has anyone encountered this problem and solved it?
https://github.com/HerMajestyDrMona/Win ... TaskbarFix

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8423 Post by RESET_9999 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:51 pm

Mrmorrison wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:28 am
Resolved! I don't know why but the user account settings were changed to the lowest point.

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mmm Same issues since the latest Win11 update...
Changing the account settings did not work for me.

EDIT: had to reboot.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8424 Post by Mrmorrison » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:42 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:51 pm
Mrmorrison wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:28 am
Resolved! I don't know why but the user account settings were changed to the lowest point.

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mmm Same issues since the latest Win11 update...
Changing the account settings did not work for me.

EDIT: had to reboot.
I'm happy to have helped you!

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8425 Post by Trees » Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:10 am

quietvoid wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:37 am
Trees wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:25 pm
Quick question, when using dovi_tool mode 3 to extract the RPU from a P5 file, is any from the RPU data lost? I'm asking because the other day, I read someone claiming both chroma and luma data being lost when using mode 3; apparently, only dynamic metadata is being carried over from the P5 files to the P8.1 files.

Is this true? Just curious.
Yes, the mapping metadata contained in profile 5 is not usable in profile 8.1.
It wouldn't make sense to keep it.
Very interesting. I never knew extracting the RPU and injecting it in to a remux was a lossy progress. I thought it truly was the best of both worlds. It seems P5 DV is still absolute best, as it's in the IPTPQc2 colour space and includes both chroma and luma mapping; it's just lacking the bit rate of a Blu-ray.

Which begs the next question; seeing as the IPTPQc2 has been reverse engineered by gifted folk, as it can be decoded by MPV to be properlt played back, is it possible to convert the Blu-ray high bit-rate stream to the IPTPQc2 colour space and inject the lossless RPU to truly get best of both worlds?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8426 Post by quietvoid » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:13 am

Trees wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:10 am
Very interesting. I never knew extracting the RPU and injecting it in to a remux was a lossy progress. I thought it truly was the best of both worlds. It seems P5 DV is still absolute best, as it's in the IPTPQc2 colour space and includes both chroma and luma mapping; it's just lacking the bit rate of a Blu-ray.

Which begs the next question; seeing as the IPTPQc2 has been reverse engineered by gifted folk, as it can be decoded by MPV to be properlt played back, is it possible to convert the Blu-ray high bit-rate stream to the IPTPQc2 colour space and inject the lossless RPU to truly get best of both worlds?
Why do you believe the metadata is any better for quality? It's literally only required to decode the colours into regular PQ/BT.2020.
It doesn't improve the quality at all on playback. The process is only lossy in that it loses the original metadata, the quality is unaffected.

And any reencoding of a Blu-ray into IPT would be worse as transcoding is lossy.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8427 Post by TheEqualizer » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:40 pm

Good afternoon, tell me what sequence of script points you need to use to analyze the finished mkv file, you need to get a screenshot similar to what is created automatically when converting HDR10+ to DV, is it possible? I can't find a similar scenario, thank you

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8428 Post by RESET_9999 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:03 pm

TheEqualizer wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:40 pm
Good afternoon, tell me what sequence of script points you need to use to analyze the finished mkv file, you need to get a screenshot similar to what is created automatically when converting HDR10+ to DV, is it possible? I can't find a similar scenario, thank you
To plot DV (graph screenshot), the workflow is 6-2-4.
For just a quick info summary about the RPU metadata in any file: 2-3
to check the metadata of any frame, input an RPU in: 2-3 or 2-2

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8429 Post by TheEqualizer » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:07 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:03 pm

To plot DV (graph screenshot), the workflow is 6-2-4.
For just a quick info summary about the RPU metadata in any file: 2-3
to check the metadata of any frame, input an RPU in: 2-3 or 2-2
Thank you very much

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8430 Post by lolipeid47 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:13 pm

quietvoid wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:13 am
Trees wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:10 am
Very interesting. I never knew extracting the RPU and injecting it in to a remux was a lossy progress. I thought it truly was the best of both worlds. It seems P5 DV is still absolute best, as it's in the IPTPQc2 colour space and includes both chroma and luma mapping; it's just lacking the bit rate of a Blu-ray.

Which begs the next question; seeing as the IPTPQc2 has been reverse engineered by gifted folk, as it can be decoded by MPV to be properlt played back, is it possible to convert the Blu-ray high bit-rate stream to the IPTPQc2 colour space and inject the lossless RPU to truly get best of both worlds?
Why do you believe the metadata is any better for quality? It's literally only required to decode the colours into regular PQ/BT.2020.
It doesn't improve the quality at all on playback. The process is only lossy in that it loses the original metadata, the quality is unaffected.

And any reencoding of a Blu-ray into IPT would be worse as transcoding is lossy.
Excellent answer thx :wink:

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