Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8326 Post by RESET_9999 » Mon May 22, 2023 1:35 pm

axeyou wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 3:49 am Thank you for all these!
DoVi_Scripts_1.8.4.2.beta now has a workflow (6-8-2) that can ''quickly'' export 5x FEL/MEL PQ screenshots. (will only work if your input is at least 36min)
It's random so just because those 5 screenshots don't show a difference doesn't mean there isn't one on another shot. Plotting DV and HDR10 is a better indication of brightness expanded via fel.
IMO that bt2020 flag is just a red herring. My Panasonic UB820 also sets it for DV.
It's been a while since I tested this but the bt2020 flag with RGB tv-led definitely did change the colors slightly but nothing major really. And I when I tested that, it was before the @yusesoap profile8 era so I only tested profile 5 patterns.
If you have an hdfury device, you can remove it. I tested the Zidoo and Shield (they sent bt2020 flag too before) and both had different colors with the bt2020 flag.

Those other differences in the signal you found are very interesting though.
any chance you could PM me a copy as well?
check your pm
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8327 Post by NiCE77 » Thu May 25, 2023 6:19 am

RESET_9999 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 1:35 pm
axeyou wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 3:49 am Thank you for all these!
DoVi_Scripts_1.8.4.2.beta now has a workflow (6-8-2) that can ''quickly'' export 5x FEL/MEL PQ screenshots. (will only work if your input is at least 36min)
It's random so just because those 5 screenshots don't show a difference doesn't mean there isn't one on another shot. Plotting DV and HDR10 is a better indication of brightness expanded via fel.
IMO that bt2020 flag is just a red herring. My Panasonic UB820 also sets it for DV.
It's been a while since I tested this but the bt2020 flag with RGB tv-led definitely did change the colors slightly but nothing major really. And I when I tested that, it was before the @yusesoap profile8 era so I only tested profile 5 patterns.
If you have an hdfury device, you can remove it. I tested the Zidoo and Shield (they sent bt2020 flag too before) and both had different colors with the bt2020 flag.

Those other differences in the signal you found are very interesting though.
any chance you could PM me a copy as well?
check your pm
Markswift says that the TV does not handle this bt2020 flag during signal processing, maybe some TVs handle it differently?
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads ... ost-180090

Can you pm me the RPUs as well? Thank you!

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8328 Post by RESET_9999 » Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 am

NiCE77 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:19 am Markswift says that the TV does not handle this bt2020 flag during signal processing, maybe some TVs handle it differently?
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads ... ost-180090
The zidoo guys (mirrors and mark) often say things without actually testing them. I don't put too much attention to what they think or say.
Can you pm me the RPUs as well? Thank you!
done.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8329 Post by MartyMcNuts » Fri May 26, 2023 11:18 pm

Hey @RESET_9999,

Using your script, is it possible to output a profile 8 DV MKV using 2 imputs??

Input #1 is a MKV with HDR already created from the UHD disc rip.
Inut #2 is the UHD disc ripped to folder.

I see you can convert the UHD disc to DV profile 8 MKV but I would prefer to add DV to my existing MKV file as I have already re-encoded it to make it a bit smaller and burnt in my subtitles.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8330 Post by RESET_9999 » Fri May 26, 2023 11:39 pm

MartyMcNuts wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:18 pm Input #1 is a MKV with HDR already created from the UHD disc rip.
Inut #2 is the UHD disc ripped to folder.
No, but you can use (2-2) to extract the rpu from the original dual track m2ts and then use (1-1) to inject it into your encode (will be converted to P8).
If your encode is cropped, the rpu will be cropped.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8331 Post by MartyMcNuts » Fri May 26, 2023 11:54 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:39 pm
MartyMcNuts wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:18 pm Input #1 is a MKV with HDR already created from the UHD disc rip.
Inut #2 is the UHD disc ripped to folder.
No, but you can use (2-2) to extract the rpu from the original dual track m2ts and then use (1-1) to inject it into your encode (will be converted to P8).
If your encode is cropped, the rpu will be cropped.
Cool, thanks. I'll give that a go...
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8332 Post by MartyMcNuts » Sat May 27, 2023 7:38 am

So does anyone know what DV profiles the TCL C835 Google TV can play??

I have tried a DV profile 7 MKV created using MakeMKV and a DV profile 8 MKV using the script from @RESET_9999. I tried both MKV's in the TV's internal player, also in Kodi installed on the TV and also my HTPC running LibreELEC (which I already knew wouldn't work).

All playing options I tried show both MKV files as HDR10.

Any ideas?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8333 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat May 27, 2023 2:17 pm

MartyMcNuts wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:38 am All playing options I tried show both MKV files as HDR10.
Any ideas?
Did you try the TS/M2TS container?
https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releases
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8334 Post by MartyMcNuts » Sat May 27, 2023 9:38 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 2:17 pm
MartyMcNuts wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:38 am All playing options I tried show both MKV files as HDR10.
Any ideas?
Did you try the TS/M2TS container?
https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releases
Not yet but I will. Are there any issues affecting playback with either container? Which is the preferred container?

Oh yeah, I am streaming the files from my NAS if that makes any difference.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8335 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat May 27, 2023 11:58 pm

I dont know about TCL TVs but TS has better DV support on devices usually.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8336 Post by valington » Mon May 29, 2023 4:38 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 11:58 pm I dont know about TCL TVs but TS has better DV support on devices usually.
Can you pm the RPUs to me as well ? Thank you RESET for everything

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8337 Post by RESET_9999 » Mon May 29, 2023 4:55 pm

valington wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:38 pm Can you pm the RPUs to me as well ? Thank you RESET for everything
Done.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8338 Post by RESET_9999 » Mon May 29, 2023 4:59 pm

I dont know if you guys heard but @DMDreview did a great video showing that some Android boxes are actually doing fake TV-LED rgb tunneling (the player still does the rpu processing).
It also explains why many devices have different L1/L2 responses. Happy to confirm that the X700 and x800m2 don't have this problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO9uwkjTXbQ

The video is very technical so I made a quick example easy to understand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8sgHR78Rdw
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8339 Post by MartyMcNuts » Tue May 30, 2023 9:50 am

RESET_9999 wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 11:58 pm I dont know about TCL TVs but TS has better DV support on devices usually.
So after a bit of testing, the TS seems to work best on the TCL 8-series TV’s player. DV works good with profile 8. With Kodi on the TV, only MP4’s show DV. I’ll stick with the TS as the audio is better.

My current (8 year old receiver) only has ARC so I’m only getting DD+ instead of ATMOS but only for DV movies. Everything else I watch through my HTPC so I can get ATMOS and DTS:X audio. The TV does have EARC so I’ll have to look at upgrading my receiver sooner rather than later then I can have DV and HD audio.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#8340 Post by RESET_9999 » Tue May 30, 2023 12:07 pm

MartyMcNuts wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:50 am So after a bit of testing, the TS seems to work best on the TCL 8-series TV’s player. DV works good with profile 8. With Kodi on the TV, only MP4’s show DV. I’ll stick with the TS as the audio is better.

My current (8 year old receiver) only has ARC so I’m only getting DD+ instead of ATMOS but only for DV movies. Everything else I watch through my HTPC so I can get ATMOS and DTS:X audio. The TV does have EARC so I’ll have to look at upgrading my receiver sooner rather than later then I can have DV and HD audio.
good to know.
Did you try Profile 7 fel? I read the TCL has the same chip as the oppo players.
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