Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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kazuma
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what is this for program? and what is the purpose? how do i use it? i think something with subtitles.

https://ibb.co/b77JxmG
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darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:21 pm
Still, how can I find out if the fel is processed or not?
Not sure. Maybe the manual or specs provide with more info. Perhaps the tv shows meaningfull data during DV playback.
A visual comparison of displays from P7 FEL source and its P8.1 counterpart could also tell you more.
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kazuma wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:33 pm
what is this for program? and what is the purpose? how do i use it? i think something with subtitles.
https://ibb.co/b77JxmG
Don't know it. But looking at it and given the name, I'm pretty sure it's a tool for extracting only the subtitles that are flagged as "forced" in a PGS stream. PGS (aka SUP) is the subtitle format used on (UHD)BD.
darrrkmanxxx
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ArArdin wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:39 pm
darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:21 pm
Still, how can I find out if the fel is processed or not?
Not sure. Maybe the manual or specs provide with more info. Perhaps the tv shows meaningfull data during DV playback.
A visual comparison of displays from P7 FEL source and its P8.1 counterpart could also tell you more.
Any key aspects to narrow it down? What would be typical for FEL? Wich advantage has P7 FEL over P8 (RPU only)?
ArArdin
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Major difference with FEL being processed is that output will be full-blown 12 bit DV. Vs 10 bit when there's no FEL. Change in dynamics and color is noticable, but I can't say I'm overwhelmed. To my eyes, having a tv calibrated yields more awe. It's much discussed how much (and if) the 2 bits really make a difference, since nowadays tv's even can't saturate fully on 10 bit luminance. And very few (if any) are able to process 12 bit with RPU internally. I think it all depends on personal taste and type of (player and) tv. There's people that prefer (10 bit) HDR10+ over DV FEL+RPU. Everybody should decide for themselves, on their own equipment. Which also goes for tv-led vs LLDV, I'd say.
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Updated version (1.65) of RESET_9999 Dovi Scripts is available from his signature.
daddy
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ragico wrote:
Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:39 pm
in my opinion this forum had 3 great contributors:
1 -@Yusesope
2 -@Quietvoid
3 _@RESET_9999
Yusesope we dont know what happened to him. He is Italian like me but I cant trace him in Italy.
Quietvoid does not like to write too much in the forum.
And then RESET_9999 who is carrying the forum forward and almost in solitude.
For me it's Grencola and later Yusesope that opened the way. Thanks to them.
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daddy wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:32 am
For me it's Grencola and later Yusesope that opened the way. Thanks to them.
Yes I forgot to mention Grencola, it was years ago.
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Probably a silly question but I know the UB820 isn't recommended for file playback but I love its tone-mapping feature. Should I just keep that if I wanna play discs and use the x800m2 for files? Does self-tone-mapping even matter for files, DoVi or otherwise? For reference, I use a ForMovie Theater for display.
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https://mega.nz/file/VSYQHLaT#KrMwvoO4 ... ej9gTN2P7o

DV test files

edit: Apple devices will need to remux files first in mp4box
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Post by smartrobot »

Hello everyone,

I have been following this thread for a while now which lead me to buy a sony x800m2

My biggest frustration with this device was all of the clicking that was required to select a movie

I decided I needed a movie wall so I hacked together a prototype this weekend

It utilizes plex for all of the media metadata, posters and file paths

I put together a small python backend + nginx host video files

Cheers!

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FEL playback works only with 2 players, the OPPO and his Clone. And FEL will be only triggered if the Source is an ISO file or in the m2ts container.
There is no chance fpr playback FEL within mkv or mp4 container.
saba30
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DoVi_Script (1.6.5.1 beta) bug
7-2-4
ac3 audio stream not exporting

15402-15408
bug in 15405 %EID%:"%TEMP% -> %EID% "%TEMP%
::----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:skip.dual
if "%ec3%"=="y" "%ffmpeg_path%" -i %video_path% -map 0:%FID% -c:v copy -c:a ac3 -c:s copy "%TEMP%audio.ac3" & set audio="%TEMP%audio.ac3"&goto :skip
if not "%ac3%"=="y" "%eac3to_path%" %video_path% %EID%:"%TEMP%audio.ac3" & set audio="%TEMP%audio.ac3"
:skip
if "%video.count%"=="2" goto :skip.ST
::--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------RPU processing----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
staknhalo
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DonaldFaQ wrote:
Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:59 pm
FEL playback works only with 2 players, the OPPO and his Clone. And FEL will be only triggered if the Source is an ISO file or in the m2ts container.
There is no chance fpr playback FEL within mkv or mp4 container.
Full FEL works on Chromecast w Google TV 4k and Tivo Stream 4k, been discussed here plenty before. I do it myself with both of mine and single stream dual layer FEL in MP4.
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ArArdin wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:32 pm
Major difference with FEL being processed is that output will be full-blown 12 bit DV. Vs 10 bit when there's no FEL. Change in dynamics and color is noticable, but I can't say I'm overwhelmed. To my eyes, having a tv calibrated yields more awe. It's much discussed how much (and if) the 2 bits really make a difference, since nowadays tv's even can't saturate fully on 10 bit luminance. And very few (if any) are able to process 12 bit with RPU internally. I think it all depends on personal taste and type of (player and) tv. There's people that prefer (10 bit) HDR10+ over DV FEL+RPU. Everybody should decide for themselves, on their own equipment. Which also goes for tv-led vs LLDV, I'd say.
So if I only can playback Single Layer P7 files, then I guess FEL won't be a thing since this will always be 10-bit, right?
e.g.:

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Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 69.1 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.347
Stream size                              : 62.9 GiB (86%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 922 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 600 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray
because of:

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Bit depth                                : 10 bits
edit: in an mkv container, of course
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