New user here, fresh on the scene.
Purchased a drive from one of the sellers here to rip my 4K DV discs - Works great, however I have a few questions on the process.
When I do the rip, I get the disc files, then when I convert to MKV i get 2x files of almost equal size that seem to be identical. Disc in question is the 2020 UK re-release of Fifth Element with DV. I figured the differences would be one is DV and one is HDR? When I stream through Plex, DV is detected and activated on my LG C2.
The questions I have are, how do I tell the difference between the two files that are created?
With other 'downloaded' exclusively DV TV shows/Movies, when I see their thumbnails in Plex or view them on a display that doesn't support DV, they show in a purple hue. I have done a test viewing of the Fifth Element MKV I made that triggers DV on my C2, however it will also show normally with no purple hue on a standard HDR display. Is this because it has BOTH DV and HDR support within the file? Or is DV being triggered but is actually only HDR and it's a false trigger?
Apologies if these are questions that have been previously asked or really basic, I'm looking to expand my knowledge and appreciate any help.
Dolby Vision rips
Re: Dolby Vision rips
Use the program "Mediainfo". It's free. Just google it.
Re: Dolby Vision rips
Also when ripping a lot of times one has no chapters. So when they both are identical, length wise check if one has no chapters. Next time just choose the one that has chapters.
Re: Dolby Vision rips
@kweenie - That explains a lot. I've done a few more rips and you are right, one has chapters one doesn't. Thanks for clearing that up!
@Coopervid - I installed Mediainfo and it's super handy, thank you! I do still have my initial question which is even more burning now that I have seen what Mediainfo tells me. When I play these rips of 4K DV discs through Plex, Dolby Vision is triggered on the TV - However the same file will play in HDR on another TV that doesn't support DV - DV files I have downloaded in the past have always had a purple hue to them if played on a device that doesn't support it.
When the rip is made into MKV, is it retaining both DV and HDR10 in the one file and will act as the disc does and play the format that the display is capable of? If so, that's really awesome and I have no issues.
Here is an extract of the Fifth Element rip I mentioned:
General
Unique ID : 106561043215725409620723391779297649841 (0x502AE910330165F800ED813A374964B1)
Complete name : A:\MakeMKV\Fifth Element 1\The Fifth Element - 4K UHD_t00.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 73.7 GiB
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 83.3 Mb/s
Movie name : The Fifth Element - 4K UHD
Encoded date : UTC 2022-10-17 07:07:16
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.17.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.17.1 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)
Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Bit rate : 79.0 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 24.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.397
Stream size : 69.9 GiB (95%)
Writing library : x265 3.2+20-a4e060a44839:[Windows][GCC 6.3.0][64 bit] 10bit
Encoding settings : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=6 / numa-pools=16,16 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x2160 / interlace=0 / total-frames=481 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=1 / ref=5 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / no-open-gop / min-keyint=1 / keyint=24 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=3 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=24 / lookahead-slices=0 / scenecut=10 / hist-scenecut=0 / radl=0 / splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=3 / tu-intra-depth=3 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=5 / limit-refs=0 / no-limit-modes / me=3 / subme=4 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-2:-2 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=6 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / cu-lossless / b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=5.00 / psy-rdoq=50.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=78000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=1 / stats-read=0 / slow-firstpass / vbv-maxrate=82000 / vbv-bufsize=99000 / vbv-init=0.9 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=3 / aq-strength=1.00 / no-cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,1) / cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.01 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr / hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / no-scenecut-aware-qp
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Audio #1
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
Format : MLP FBA
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 611 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 4 341 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel(s)_Original : 6 channels
ChannelLayout_Original : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 3.20 GiB (4%)
Title : Surround 7.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Audio #2
ID : 3
ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 580 MiB (1%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : No
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Text
ID : 4
ID in the original source medium : 4768 (0x12A0)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 2 h 5 min
Bit rate : 36.3 kb/s
Frame rate : 0.427 FPS
Count of elements : 3216
Stream size : 32.5 MiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:12:31.625 : en:Chapter 02
00:24:33.333 : en:Chapter 03
00:31:34.291 : en:Chapter 04
00:40:20.375 : en:Chapter 05
00:53:38.000 : en:Chapter 06
01:07:30.500 : en:Chapter 07
01:19:08.583 : en:Chapter 08
01:27:38.750 : en:Chapter 09
01:38:33.375 : en:Chapter 10
01:51:29.125 : en:Chapter 11
02:00:14.333 : en:Chapter 12
@Coopervid - I installed Mediainfo and it's super handy, thank you! I do still have my initial question which is even more burning now that I have seen what Mediainfo tells me. When I play these rips of 4K DV discs through Plex, Dolby Vision is triggered on the TV - However the same file will play in HDR on another TV that doesn't support DV - DV files I have downloaded in the past have always had a purple hue to them if played on a device that doesn't support it.
When the rip is made into MKV, is it retaining both DV and HDR10 in the one file and will act as the disc does and play the format that the display is capable of? If so, that's really awesome and I have no issues.
Here is an extract of the Fifth Element rip I mentioned:
General
Unique ID : 106561043215725409620723391779297649841 (0x502AE910330165F800ED813A374964B1)
Complete name : A:\MakeMKV\Fifth Element 1\The Fifth Element - 4K UHD_t00.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 73.7 GiB
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 83.3 Mb/s
Movie name : The Fifth Element - 4K UHD
Encoded date : UTC 2022-10-17 07:07:16
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.17.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.17.1 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)
Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Bit rate : 79.0 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 24.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.397
Stream size : 69.9 GiB (95%)
Writing library : x265 3.2+20-a4e060a44839:[Windows][GCC 6.3.0][64 bit] 10bit
Encoding settings : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=6 / numa-pools=16,16 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x2160 / interlace=0 / total-frames=481 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=1 / ref=5 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / no-open-gop / min-keyint=1 / keyint=24 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=3 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=24 / lookahead-slices=0 / scenecut=10 / hist-scenecut=0 / radl=0 / splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=3 / tu-intra-depth=3 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=5 / limit-refs=0 / no-limit-modes / me=3 / subme=4 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-2:-2 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=6 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / cu-lossless / b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=5.00 / psy-rdoq=50.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=78000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=1 / stats-read=0 / slow-firstpass / vbv-maxrate=82000 / vbv-bufsize=99000 / vbv-init=0.9 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=3 / aq-strength=1.00 / no-cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,1) / cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.01 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr / hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / no-scenecut-aware-qp
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Audio #1
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
Format : MLP FBA
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 611 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 4 341 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel(s)_Original : 6 channels
ChannelLayout_Original : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 3.20 GiB (4%)
Title : Surround 7.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Audio #2
ID : 3
ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2 h 6 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 580 MiB (1%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : No
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Text
ID : 4
ID in the original source medium : 4768 (0x12A0)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 2 h 5 min
Bit rate : 36.3 kb/s
Frame rate : 0.427 FPS
Count of elements : 3216
Stream size : 32.5 MiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray
Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:12:31.625 : en:Chapter 02
00:24:33.333 : en:Chapter 03
00:31:34.291 : en:Chapter 04
00:40:20.375 : en:Chapter 05
00:53:38.000 : en:Chapter 06
01:07:30.500 : en:Chapter 07
01:19:08.583 : en:Chapter 08
01:27:38.750 : en:Chapter 09
01:38:33.375 : en:Chapter 10
01:51:29.125 : en:Chapter 11
02:00:14.333 : en:Chapter 12