Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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staknhalo
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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johnjon94 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:37 pm
hdr=none prevents HDR10 from being displayed twice in the mediainfo
i've seen this, is that the only thing it effects (mediainfo redaout)? is playback effected at all on anything?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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johnjon94 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:29 pm
So as expected, it doesnt trigger DV on LG C8. So I kept the old mp4muxer workflow for older LG TV owners but now the main mode(single track) can do both "fake P5" and HEV1 P8.
I didn't add more subtitles/audio support because it requires more work but I will.

here's a beta version if you want to test:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xh4esC ... sp=sharing
johnjon94
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:12 am
johnjon94 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:29 pm
So as expected, it doesnt trigger DV on LG C8. So I kept the old mp4muxer workflow for older LG TV owners but now the main mode(single track) can do both "fake P5" and HEV1 P8.
I didn't add more subtitles/audio support because it requires more work but I will.

here's a beta version if you want to test:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xh4esC ... sp=sharing
When you select option 1, it brings you to the DV Fixer option instead of the correct muxing option, I had to select option 4. Image
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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oups, there was an error in my menu order.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/102G6_Z ... sp=sharing
johnjon94
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:04 am
oups, there was an error in my menu order.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/102G6_Z ... sp=sharing
Is it possible to make a setting to mux from MKV P8 to MP4 P8? It looks like only the P5 muxing options are set

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yes, I forgot to remove the "P5" in the menu title. It can do P7/P8 input and the output will always be P8 (or fake p5 for apple)
johnjon94
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:08 am
yes, I forgot to remove the "P5" in the menu title. It can do P7/P8 input and the output will always be P8 (or fake p5 for apple)
Understood! Thanks for the clarification, I'm giving it a test now. I also own an Apple TV and can test if the fake P5 works. Is there a specific player that its been said to work on like Infuse?
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johnjon94 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:11 am
Understood! Thanks for the clarification, I'm giving it a test now. I also own an Apple TV and can test if the fake P5 works. Is there a specific player that its been said to work on like Infuse?
you have to use PLEX IIRC. infuse removed support for fake p5 i think.

I'm noticing that the 7.1 EC3 audio is stuttering. EC3 Atmos and ffmpeg EC3 5.1 are fine.
TS and mkv have no issue with 7.1 EC3 tracks
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:14 am
johnjon94 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:11 am
Understood! Thanks for the clarification, I'm giving it a test now. I also own an Apple TV and can test if the fake P5 works. Is there a specific player that its been said to work on like Infuse?
you have to use PLEX IIRC. infuse removed support for fake p5 i think.

I'm noticing that the 7.1 EC3 audio is stuttering. EC3 Atmos and ffmpeg EC3 5.1 are fine.
TS and mkv have no issue with 7.1 EC3 tracks
A few things I noticed that need to be set with mp4box -

When adding the video input you need to add hdr=none to make sure the static metadata from the HDR10 base file is not changed.
viewtopic.php?p=124635#p124635

When using dv profile to 8 (or whatever profile the file is that you're muxing into MP4) you need to include dv-profile=8.1 (I'm not sure how this would affect the "fake" P5 though).

The flag xps_inband needs to be set if the source file is dvhe rather than dvh1 (also not sure how this would affect the "fake" P5).

The settings -for-test cleans up the MP4 file by removing the "Encoded Date" "Tagged Date" and "Writing Application" information for each track.

So the full command would be like this

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mp4box -for-test -add "input.hevc:hdr=none:dv-profile=8.1:xps_inband" 
sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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staknhalo wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:58 pm
johnjon94 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:37 pm
hdr=none prevents HDR10 from being displayed twice in the mediainfo
i've seen this, is that the only thing it effects (mediainfo redaout)? is playback effected at all on anything?
I can't tell the difference between quality from my eyes. So I just don't bother to change it.
johnjon94 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:37 pm

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mp4box.exe -add "%BL%:hdr=none:dv-profile=8.1:xps_inband" -add "audio" -add "subtitle" -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 -no-iod -enable 1 "output.mp4"
Hi, I'm curious about what does `-ab dby1 -no-iod -enable 1` mean?
Will they affect final quality of the image?
Could you please explain a little bit more of this, thanks!
johnjon94 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:11 am
Understood! Thanks for the clarification, I'm giving it a test now. I also own an Apple TV and can test if the fake P5 works. Is there a specific player that its been said to work on like Infuse?
Apple's native player or any player that "passthrough" that file to Apple's player core. Avoid using INFUSE.
I play them in "FILE" App directly SMB from my PC.
sw5163 wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:56 pm
Also do you guys know if there is an option in mp4box to convert dvhe->dvh1 when importing mp4?

Currently I'm using:
ffmpeg -i dvhe.mp4 -c copy dv.hevc
mp4box -add dv.hevc -new dvh1.mp4
But it would be nice if I could just skip the ffmpeg step.
Thanks.
The command is: https://github.com/gpac/gpac/issues/199 ... 1262491409

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MP4Box -add source_dvhe.mp4:dopt:xps_inband=no -new source_dvh1.mp4
Also if anyone is interested, the latest mp4box auto detects DV Profile now, instead of tag everything as P5 dvh1.
https://github.com/gpac/gpac/issues/199 ... 1263426298
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:14 am
johnjon94 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:11 am
Understood! Thanks for the clarification, I'm giving it a test now. I also own an Apple TV and can test if the fake P5 works. Is there a specific player that its been said to work on like Infuse?
you have to use PLEX IIRC. infuse removed support for fake p5 i think.

I'm noticing that the 7.1 EC3 audio is stuttering. EC3 Atmos and ffmpeg EC3 5.1 are fine.
TS and mkv have no issue with 7.1 EC3 tracks
The fake P5 doesn't seem to be working properly. It set a very odd FPS resulting in this crazy length

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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johnjon94 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:30 am
A few things I noticed
I know, and all of this is in the script.
when apple is used, it's not used...

The only thing i didnt add is " -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 -no-iod -enable 1 " because i didnt want to mess up apple since i did all the test with @ragico with it.
I always been using it on the old mp4muxer workflows though
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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johnjon94 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:37 pm

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mp4box.exe -add "%BL%:hdr=none:dv-profile=8.1:xps_inband" -add "audio" -add "subtitle" -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 -no-iod -enable 1 "output.mp4"
Hi, I'm curious about what does `-ab dby1 -no-iod -enable 1` mean?
Will they affect final quality of the image?
Could you please explain a little bit more of this, thanks!
These are the general Dolby Vision parameters that are required when authoring a DV-compliant MP4 file. If you look at that link you posted to github, you'll see the comment under the person is using those same settings. I don't believe it has any effect on the quality but rather ensuring its a proper DV MP4 file.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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johnjon94 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:49 am
The fake P5 doesn't seem to be working properly. It set a very odd FPS resulting in this crazy length
maybe an appleTV web-dl ? i know the old mp4muxer also had issue muxing those file because they dont have FPS bistream information.
with the sample files i used, there is no problem:


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Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086
Codec ID                                 : dvh1
Duration                                 : 2 min 1 s
Bit rate                                 : 12.1 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 30.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.061
Stream size                              : 176 MiB (85%)
Title                                    : hevc@GPAC2.1-DEV-rev321-gc68d8a53-master
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-05 01:59:51
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-05 01:59:52
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
mdhd_Duration                            : 121830
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC
johnjon94
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:00 am
johnjon94 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:49 am
The fake P5 doesn't seem to be working properly. It set a very odd FPS resulting in this crazy length
maybe an appleTV web-dl ? i know the old mp4muxer also had issue muxing those file because they dont have FPS bistream information.
with the sample files i used, there is no problem:


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Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086
Codec ID                                 : dvh1
Duration                                 : 2 min 1 s
Bit rate                                 : 12.1 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 30.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.061
Stream size                              : 176 MiB (85%)
Title                                    : hevc@GPAC2.1-DEV-rev321-gc68d8a53-master
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-05 01:59:51
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-05 01:59:52
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
mdhd_Duration                            : 121830
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC
Thats interesting, it is an Apple TV file, but the fps was corrected at the bitstream level so it shouldn't be pulling an incorrect fps. I'll try with a different file
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