Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Poker354
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Poker354 »

I’m not sure I’m experiencing this bug. LG CX with Sony X700 and Shield Pro 2019. Testing the videos back and forth (ts on Sony and mp4 on Shield) I could easily see the changes on both. The shield might look slightly better but I easily see them as well on the x700.

X700

https://imgur.com/a/0kYGI5Z/all

Shield

https://imgur.com/a/CIEGd5f/all
djanvi2020
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by djanvi2020 »

Interesting thought,

A majority of my Dolby Atmos DV discs have 7.1 and DD+ can do 7.1 Unless i missed the memo that DV MP4 or TS files doesnt like 7.1, why aernt we using it if Dolby Atmos or Dolby True HD tracks are in 7.1 and the Dolby Scripts downgrades it to 5.1?

why are we losing those two channels cause i do have a system that can do 7.1 and DD+ can have 7.1?

??????
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

Poker354 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:52 am
I’m not sure I’m experiencing this bug. LG CX with Sony X700 and Shield Pro 2019. Testing the videos back and forth (ts on Sony and mp4 on Shield) I could easily see the changes on both. The shield might look slightly better but I easily see them as well on the x700.

X700

https://imgur.com/a/0kYGI5Z/all

Shield

https://imgur.com/a/CIEGd5f/all
yep, CX looks ok. lucky you

please try the cmv4.0 version on your Shield(or TV internal player) and tell us if you get L8 reaction.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tU3VLC ... sp=sharing
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RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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djanvi2020 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:40 am
Interesting thought,

A majority of my Dolby Atmos DV discs have 7.1 and DD+ can do 7.1 Unless i missed the memo that DV MP4 or TS files doesnt like 7.1, why aernt we using it if Dolby Atmos or Dolby True HD tracks are in 7.1 and the Dolby Scripts downgrades it to 5.1?

why are we losing those two channels cause i do have a system that can do 7.1 and DD+ can have 7.1?

??????
ffmpeg doesnt support 7.1 audio.
DEE does but I'm not able to get 7.1 audio from my C2 internal player to my AVR (might be because my avr is ARC)

Also, the 7.1 EC3 from bluray disc doesnt work, it plays the 5.1 core on my C8/C2.
sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 am
ffmpeg doesnt support 7.1 audio.
That is not true. ffmpeg supports:
7.1 trueHD/atmos copy
7.1 trueHD, flac, PCM copy and encoding
6.1 alac encoding
7.1 eac3/atmos copy
5.1 eac3 encoding
5.1 ac3 encoding
I’m not familiar with all the DTX sound.
RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 am
DEE does but I'm not able to get 7.1 audio from my C2 internal player to my AVR (might be because my avr is ARC)
ARC should be able to do 7.1 eac3/atmos at best, through HDMI 2.0
7.1 eac3 without atmos through HDMI 1.3
eARC is only needed for TrueHD and PCM
sound_specs.png
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In case anyone want this, it's from https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/106809463. I don't own it.
Last edited by sw5163 on Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
mehgh750
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:31 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:59 am
I'm using the recently purchased x700 with the lg c9 oled and it sucks if it turns out the x700 is unusable again.
C9 has the old DV engine so you don't have this problem.
How old are we talking about? I got LG Electronics OLED55B7A in 2018, do I need to worry about this issue?
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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sw5163 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:19 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 am
ffmpeg doesnt support 7.1 audio.
That is not true. ffmpeg supports:
7.1 trueHD/atmos copy
7.1 trueHD, flac, PCM copy and encoding
6.1 alac encoding
7.1 eac3/atmos copy
5.1 eac3 encoding
5.1 ac3 encoding
I’m not familiar with all the DTX sound.
lol we are talking about my script and EC3 encoding.. I know ffmpeg can copy 7.1 audio
sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:54 am
lol we are talking about my script and EC3 encoding.. I know ffmpeg can copy 7.1 audio
Sorry, my bad.
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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sw5163 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:19 am
ARC should be able to do 7.1 eac3/atmos at best, through HDMI 2.0
7.1 eac3 without atmos through HDMI 1.3
eARC is only needed for TrueHD and PCM
sound_specs.png
In case anyone want this, it's from https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/106809463. I don't own it.
well 7.1 EC3 without a core doesn't work on my C8/C2 + ARC AVR , so I don't know
7.1 EC3 with a core plays fine but only the 5.1 core.

btw , the answer to your hybrid rpu question is also in my script :P. there's tutorial video. they were made with an older version of the script though.
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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mehgh750 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:44 am
How old are we talking about? I got LG Electronics OLED55B7A in 2018, do I need to worry about this issue?
looks like the CX or older are fine
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

looks like the Sony X900H also have the bug:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/offici ... t-61832553
mehgh750
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:22 pm
mehgh750 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:44 am
How old are we talking about? I got LG Electronics OLED55B7A in 2018, do I need to worry about this issue?
looks like the CX or older are fine
Thanks for letting us know.
sw5163
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am
btw , the answer to your hybrid rpu question is also in my script :P. there's tutorial video. they were made with an older version of the script though.
Wow, thanks that really helps a lot!
RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am
well 7.1 EC3 without a core doesn't work on my C8/C2 + ARC AVR , so I don't know
7.1 EC3 with a core plays fine but only the 5.1 core.
eac3 can have a core? I don't know that, I thought only TrueHD should have a core.
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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sw5163 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:48 pm
eac3 can have a core? I don't know that, I thought only TrueHD should have a core.
yes, a core is mandatory on bluray disc for EAC3.
i made a demo with a couple different audio you can test (i messed up the last part of the demo though):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D0qlUm ... sp=sharing


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Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 5 064 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 29.6 MiB (2%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MLP FBA
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Maximum bit rate                         : 5 340 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Format profile                           : Blu-ray Disc
Format settings                          : Dolby Surround EX
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 71.0 MiB (5%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Audio #4
ID                                       : 4355 (0x1103)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Format settings                          : Dolby Surround EX
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 768 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 35.5 MiB (2%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Audio #5
ID                                       : 4356 (0x1104)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 6 min 28 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 62.500 FPS (768 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 71.0 MiB (5%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

sofakng
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sofakng »

Ugh ... I've just unboxed my x800m2 and I can confirm the bug on the LG C1. The LG C1 internal player looks fine.
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