Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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sofakng
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sofakng » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:55 pm

Thanks again so much for the help.

Any advice regarding the Oppo 203 clone (M2910) instead of the X800M2?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:00 pm

bradchad wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:05 am
To my understanding, I need to convert the P7 to a P5 or P8, and convert the TrueHD audio to something like EAC3. I am simply unsure how to get there using the Dovi_tools RESET_9999 put together.
They are command line tools.
See recommendation CX or newer at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... jymVo/edit
I think almost no tv’s internal player is capable of DV MKV playback.
Do the P7->P8.1 conversion with any tool you like.
I wouldn't recommend converting trueHD, use the ac3 core in the file instead, it’s converted by the filmmaker and keeps director’s intention.
bradchad wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:05 am
Also, I see these terms fairly often, but I have no clue what ST-DL and DT-DL mean.
ST-DL refers to single track dual layer FEL file and DT-DL to dual track dual layer FEL.
Dolby Vision is very complicated, you may want to read more post to learn more of this.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:37 pm

bradchad wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:05 am
Sorry to jump in like this.

I am very very new here and I just started using the tools generously provided by RESET_9999. I just wanted to know what is the workflow I should use to convert a MKV, dual layer P7 with TrueHD 7.1 audio, to something that can run natively of my LG C1 (or through Plex to my LG C1), with both Dolby Vision and Atmos. An example would be spider-man NWH.
first, edit the bat file with notepad and set tsmuxer.popup=YES and mkvtoolnix.popup=NO
then: 1 - 7 - 2 - 2

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by dwalme » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:49 pm

sofakng wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:55 pm
Thanks again so much for the help.

Any advice regarding the Oppo 203 clone (M2910) instead of the X800M2?
I've never used the Oppo clone so I will let others comment.

The nice thing about the X800M2 is that in a pinch you can always throw the disc in and play if you needed to. Say you just received a movie and wanted to watch before ripping.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by bradchad » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:53 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:37 pm

first, edit the bat file with notepad and set tsmuxer.popup=YES and mkvtoolnix.popup=NO
then: 1 - 7 - 2 - 2
Thank you so much for the detailed response!!

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:31 am

RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:37 pm
Maybe update the Playback-Devices list?
It's been confirmed Apple TV and iOS devices can play BL+RPU with some conversion.
Or not, if that is considered conflicting to Dolby standards and rules

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by dwalme » Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:18 am

sw5163 wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:31 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:37 pm
Maybe update the Playback-Devices list?
It's been confirmed Apple TV and iOS devices can play BL+RPU with some conversion.
Or not, if that is considered conflicting to Dolby standards and rules
Apple TV can only play Dolby Vision P5 properly.

Infuse used to trigger Dolby Vision on TVs for some other profiles but it was only ever using the HDR10 base layer. They fixed it awhile back to stop triggering Dolby Vision on the display for those profiles.

If there is new information please link the source.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Jose1001 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:39 am

One little question guys. I have a movie in FULLUHD with dolby vision that comes on 2 discs, and I want to create a single disc with a profile 8, how is this usually done, I create two profiles 8 with the Dovi_Scripts tool as if they were different movies and then join them, or one and then I create profile 8?
I have previously joined movies that came in 2 discs with HDR, and I also do my profiles 8 with the Dovi_Scripts tool, but until now I had not come across this case of joining a movie from 2 discs to 1 with dolby vision.
Thank you very much and greetings

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:38 pm

sw5163 wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:31 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:37 pm
Maybe update the Playback-Devices list?
It's been confirmed Apple TV and iOS devices can play BL+RPU with some conversion.
Or not, if that is considered conflicting to Dolby standards and rules
I've seen confirmation for the ipad but not for the appleTV yet.

Jose1001 wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:39 am
I create two profiles 8 with the Dovi_Scripts tool as if they were different movies and then join them, or one and then I create profile 8?
yes, I think you can use tsmuxer or mkvtoolnix to join the two parts together

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by dvfan » Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:43 pm

sw5163 wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:38 pm
dvfan wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:41 am
I'm wondering, using Sony A80J Internal Player ( via USB ) does not play mp4 profile 8 DV files converted by ffmpeg to mp4 ( it includes DV metadata ) though player says "File can't be opened"
Are you sure ffmpeg can configure the DV box correctly?
Im using ffmpeg 4.4, it seems it ignores DV when generating mp4.
Maybe try mp4muxer for proper DV mp4 generation?
Most TV internal player don't support DV in MKV.
Yes, upon checking mediainfo it shows Dolby Vision metadata but the file fails to play, same happened on a Hisense U7G so looks like ffmpeg breaks video with DV. TSMuxer with ts worked perfectly.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:48 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:38 pm
I've seen confirmation for the ipad but not for the appleTV yet.
Wait what, I thought Manixx2020beyound has tested it on ATV. Maybe I interpret it wrong?
But thanks any way.
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:39 pm
Hum,
We’ll it plays doblyvision on my pc all trims as well & triggers pc dv.
Are the colors correct is a good question doe.
But I’ll test it on my appletv but I would say it should play on appletv.

Yes it plays on appletv & all the l/trims
And u can upload that to your apple tv library
Stream it from Mac m1 to Apple TV
Stream it form pc to Apple TV works

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:08 am

dwalme wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:18 am
sw5163 wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:31 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:37 pm
Maybe update the Playback-Devices list?
It's been confirmed Apple TV and iOS devices can play BL+RPU with some conversion.
Or not, if that is considered conflicting to Dolby standards and rules
Apple TV can only play Dolby Vision P5 properly.

Infuse used to trigger Dolby Vision on TVs for some other profiles but it was only ever using the HDR10 base layer. They fixed it awhile back to stop triggering Dolby Vision on the display for those profiles.

If there is new information please link the source.
Sorry, I thought it's been confirmed last month. Maybe Im wrong.
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:39 pm
Hum,
We’ll it plays doblyvision on my pc all trims as well & triggers pc dv.
Are the colors correct is a good question doe.
But I’ll test it on my appletv but I would say it should play on appletv.

Yes it plays on appletv & all the l/trims
And u can upload that to your apple tv library
Stream it from Mac m1 to Apple TV
Stream it form pc to Apple TV works
I don't use infuse on my iOS device. The native player (quicktime?) through File APP works just fine for me.
Does ATV have some file sharing app that can play video using the internal player through SMB?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:22 am

@sw5163

yeah, @manix can be hard to follow sometimes...
do you have an mp4 version of quietvoid's L2 trim test file that works on the appleTV?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:26 am

dvfan wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:43 pm
Yes, upon checking mediainfo it shows Dolby Vision metadata but the file fails to play, same happened on a Hisense U7G so looks like ffmpeg breaks video with DV. TSMuxer with ts worked perfectly.
If it is not too much trouble, could you please show me what command you are using to generate DV mp4 with ffmpeg?
I would very much like to give it a try.
Im currently using ffmpeg dovi_tool mp4muxer and mp4box to generate DV mp4. The process is troublesome.
It will save a lot of effort, If ffmpeg alone can do it.
Many thanks.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sw5163 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:40 am

RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:22 am
@sw5163
do you have an mp4 version of quietvoid's L2 trim test file that works on the appleTV?
I don't have apple tv but I have rechecked these files, I think they can still be downloaded.
sw5163 wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:50 am
Converted p8.1 sample:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
Anyone can make this with the following command:
ffmpeg -i p81_cmv29_tests.mkv -c copy cmv29.hevc
mp4muxer -i cmv29.hevc --dv-profile 5 --dvh1flag 0 -o cmv29.mp4
They can directly play by iPhone in safari and have dolby vision.
Im not sure about ATV, but l2 trim works in cmv29 on iOS devices.
Only saturation in l2 works in cmv40 since cmv40 has l8 for replacement, according to quietvoid.
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