Hello,
When ripping a UHD disc, the English comes up a few times - what's the difference between them?
Also, when you select one, there is a main box to check and another on the right. To select any of the duplicate or one language, do you have to press both?
Finally, what does force mean? It comes up at the end of each subtitle language.
Subtitle - multiple boxes
Re: Subtitle - multiple boxes
Conceptually, forced subtitles are subtitles that should appear even if subtitles are not turned on. The most common example is when someone is briefly speaking in a foreign language. Some movies handle this by 'burning in' the forced subtitles. John Wick (2014) works this way. Other movies have some subtitles marked as forced, so the player has to do the right thing. I think Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) works this way. MakeMKV can separate out these forced subtitles into their own subtitle track in a .mkv file. This is the (forced only) checkbox you see in the MakeMKV UI. Further complicating matters, some movies have the appearance of forced subtitles, but the 'forced' subtitles are just in a regular subtitle track and are not marked forced.
Subtitles are a bit messy and there's no set way they work. Disc authors can do almost anything which makes getting a clean rip with useful subtitles more complicated than everyone would like.
Re: Subtitle - multiple boxes
Hello,dcoke22 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:04 amConceptually, forced subtitles are subtitles that should appear even if subtitles are not turned on. The most common example is when someone is briefly speaking in a foreign language. Some movies handle this by 'burning in' the forced subtitles. John Wick (2014) works this way. Other movies have some subtitles marked as forced, so the player has to do the right thing. I think Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) works this way. MakeMKV can separate out these forced subtitles into their own subtitle track in a .mkv file. This is the (forced only) checkbox you see in the MakeMKV UI. Further complicating matters, some movies have the appearance of forced subtitles, but the 'forced' subtitles are just in a regular subtitle track and are not marked forced.
Subtitles are a bit messy and there's no set way they work. Disc authors can do almost anything which makes getting a clean rip with useful subtitles more complicated than everyone would like.
Thank you for your patience, but a bit confused. Please bear with me.
Is it a case of ripping the disc or ISOs (in my case) with the all the English languages in hope the foreign subtitles work?
From my collection, its Planet of The Apes and Shang-Chi where is no translation of the sign language or the Japanese/Chinese.
Why does each English language subtitle have two boxes?
Re: Subtitle - multiple boxes
If your movie has one or more commentary audio tracks, then these commentaries might have their own subtitles.
Re: Subtitle - multiple boxes
If some entries in a subtitle track are marked as forced by the disc's author, MakeMKV can parse those out into a separate subtitle track. If you want MakeMKV to do that, check the 'second box' in the UI, the one labeled forced only.