LibreDrive for Pioneer drives

[mike admin]

The main work to support Pioneer drives is done. MakeMKV should work with most Pioneer drives in LibreDrive mode. All drives starting from BDR-208 should be (eventually) supported, including rebranded ASUS/Optiarc/Verbatim clones.

This can be checked by drive platform:
RS1xxx - old firmware, could be technically supported, but too much hassle to make it happen. Likely would stay unsupported.
RS8000 - transitional firmware, mostly BDR-207 drives. Likely would stay unsupported.
RS8xxx and later, including RS9xxx RSAxxx and so on. Should be supported.

At the time of this writing none of the Pioneer drives require firmware update - they should just work.

If youre drive is listed above but is not supported, it means that it is not yet added to SDF.bin . Please post the drive model here.

Please do post any Pioneer specific issues in this topic.

SDF.bin v8D:

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supported - original vendor firmware (Pioneer RS): 210 firmware(s):
PIONEER-BD-RW_BDR-XS05WF-1.41-B6BE50FD-8221ID25-20140402
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-TD05-1.00-DCD80C11-8211ID01-20120713
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-TD05-1.02-F9240B3B-8211-20140619
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-1.20-B4E69320-8231ID69-20131111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-1.21-2D22701B-8231-20140402
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-1.21-9D827504-8231ID69-20140402
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-2.10-F235B209-8232ID32-20170622
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-3.00-65519583-8231ID34-20140730
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-3.01-5FB5DFEE-8231ID34-20141226
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-3.10-1D3C06AA-8232ID35-20170622
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD05-3.10-F3AA96E0-8232ID34-20170622
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XS05-1.41-458975F0-8221ID69-20140402
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XS05-1.41-94681536-8221-20140402
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208-1.40-3D1502C6-8301ID81-20140306
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208-1.50-7BDE40E4-8301ID81-20150924
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208D-1.10-C35BFB0B-8301ID61-20120822
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208D-1.40-79FD6F6F-8301ID61-20140306
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208D-1.50-100E7E06-8301ID61-20150924
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.10-8740B0FB-8301ID60-20120822
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.10-BAD6EC01-8301ID58-20120822
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.40-83BE4C7D-8301-20140306
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.40-B0091F61-8301ID60-20140306
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.40-E6EF5E2A-8301ID58-20140306
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.50-1FBF1A91-8301-20150924
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.50-29298241-8301ID60-20150924
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-208M-1.50-52C83D93-8301ID58-20150924
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S08-1.30-E47AEF8C-8301ID43-20130708
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S08-1.40-7B710936-8301ID43-20140306
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S08-1.50-5163944A-8301ID43-20150924
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.31-86811DD1-8600ID72-20150525
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.32-6A5E6CDC-8600ID72-20150825
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.33-F171979C-8600ID72-20151209
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.34-4B10A330-8600ID72-20160425
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.50-2DB8CDB7-8600ID72-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.51-87336E5B-8600ID72-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.52-984EC28B-8600ID72-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S09JX-1.54-1C240838-8600ID72-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.20-81DE65E2-8600ID81-20140408
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.30-617FCF6E-8600ID81-20141205
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.31-EBFDDAB0-8600ID81-20150525
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.32-7A3EB286-8600ID81-20150825
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.33-A2F4E5CF-8600ID81-20151209
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.34-5FE47591-8600ID81-20160425
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.50-3269FF97-8600ID81-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.51-43826180-8601ID81-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209-1.51-D8A59209-8600ID81-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.20-90EB76E2-8600ID61-20140408
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.30-6901C899-8600ID61-20141205
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.31-8CF13BF3-8600ID61-20150525
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.32-F3AD8FFF-8600ID61-20150825
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.33-CC733748-8600ID61-20151209
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.34-FCF25369-8600ID61-20160425
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.50-7F6800F0-8600ID61-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.51-148709AB-8600ID61-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209D-1.51-664813FF-8601ID61-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.20-52328626-8600-20140408
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.20-5FF17367-8600ID58-20140408
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.20-D1B39D1C-8600ID60-20140408
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.30-3963D829-8600-20141205
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.30-8AB26DA4-8600ID58-20141205
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.30-CF3C8A07-8600ID60-20141205
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.31-05D1FFCC-8600ID58-20150525
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.31-6A320FF5-8600-20150525
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.31-EF8C9405-8600ID60-20150525
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.32-1DB7D5CF-8600-20150825
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.32-83131CAD-8600ID58-20150825
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.32-8DA82B4D-8600ID60-20150825
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.33-066E4E6C-8600ID58-20151209
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.33-6AFEC12B-8600ID60-20151209
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.33-94F4337C-8600-20151209
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.34-0272A73D-8600-20160425
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.34-C20F2E95-8600ID60-20160425
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.34-F687C68A-8600ID58-20160425
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.50-211A9772-8600-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.50-24E51C0C-8600ID58-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.50-9D6A6DAD-8600ID60-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.51-388F93C7-8601ID60-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.51-7961AC0B-8600ID60-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.51-B3D6CC1C-8600ID58-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.51-C74EAD09-8600-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.52-8706173F-8600ID58-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.52-EF61A725-8601ID60-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.52-FFD20FFB-8600ID60-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.54-1D807079-8601ID60-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.54-8538B3B7-8600ID60-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-1.54-D741421C-8600ID58-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-8.50-FDCF3D4E-8601ID52-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.20-B23B14F9-8600ID43-20140408
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.30-057E2FC3-8600ID43-20141205
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.31-8D601423-8600ID43-20150525
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.32-8F7EC102-8600ID43-20150825
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.33-E5520C71-8600ID43-20151209
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.34-57B19FCF-8600ID43-20160425
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.50-E675168C-8600ID43-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.51-2F7262DC-8601ID43-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.51-3677F22A-8600ID43-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.52-AF457A03-8601ID43-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.52-B9B2735B-8600ID43-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.54-16A43563-8601ID43-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S09-1.54-7E7BBB7B-8600ID43-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.02-625BF8BE-8800ID72-20170223
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.50-D1B18416-8800ID72-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.51-634BC71A-8800ID72-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.51-F362267E-8801ID72-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.52-124CD3F1-8800ID72-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.52-8706F7EA-8801ID72-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.53-0CAB0042-8801ID72-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S11JX-1.53-DF931D24-8800ID72-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.02-87BA6DC7-8800ID60-20170223
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.50-5BE18B0F-8800ID58-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.50-A291E78D-8800-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.50-FC4245B7-8800ID60-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.51-0BBF4615-8800ID60-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.51-2689307C-8801-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.51-4C1159D3-8800-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.51-8A93799D-8801ID58-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.51-B020FFBA-8800ID58-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.51-B7756C3E-8801ID60-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.52-959A61E2-8801ID60-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.52-BCE8CAB4-8801ID58-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.52-D8162CDD-8800ID58-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.52-DA133C56-8800ID60-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.53-326AC898-8801ID60-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.53-6FBA3899-8800ID60-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.53-BC596F5C-8801ID58-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-211M-1.53-F134C6C2-8800ID58-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.02-98F6C76F-8800ID43-20170223
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.50-2CD5C009-8800ID43-20171221
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.51-D0795CDA-8801ID43-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.51-FD42A614-8800ID43-20180508
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.52-0400B8D9-8801ID43-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.52-7987B01B-8800ID43-20190111
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.53-341479DB-8800ID43-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S11-1.53-D92F3D6B-8801ID43-20200803
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD04-1.00-4B3560E3-8A10-20170210
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD04-1.10-431D03CF-8A10-20170425
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD04-1.11-72FD7DDB-8A10-20181128
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD04-1.14-489CDFD6-8A10-20200615
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XD07U-1.01-AA7B8585-8D31ID69-20181203
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XD07U-1.01-FE438337-8D31ID05-20181203
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XD07U-1.03-27184B96-8D31ID05-20200820
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XD07U-1.03-BE6D47C9-8D31ID69-20200820
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-AD07-1.01-28582C83-8D30ID32-20181203
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD07-1.02-09F745D9-8D30-20190905
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD07-1.03-4F94511A-8D30ID36-20200820
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD07-1.03-784E4A86-8D30-20200820
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XD07-1.03-97A65EF6-8D30ID35-20200820
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S12JX-1.01-2AE09FD4-8F01ID72-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-209M-8.53-31235FEA-8F00ID52-20190307
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212D-1.00-52E9FE5C-8F00ID61-20190110
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212D-1.01-F567BFF5-8F00ID61-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212D-1.02-22C9CC74-8F00ID61-20220316
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212M-1.01-5013125C-8F00ID56-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212M-1.02-DDCB943E-8F00ID56-20220309
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212U-1.01-CD721A59-8F01ID58-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212U-1.02-E5C95BE2-8F01ID58-20220307
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-212V-1.00-351EBAC1-8F00ID06-20200807
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S12-1.01-F83E6EB3-8F00ID45-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S12U-1.00-9F4CFBF7-8F01ID43-20190110
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S12U-1.01-1C080B0C-8F01ID43-20200721
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S12U-1.02-F1ED7302-8F01ID43-20220307
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12-1.02-003EFC2C-9000ID15-20200122
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12-1.02-B87821FD-9000ID56-20200122
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12-1.03-F01BF4EF-9000ID56-20200805
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12-1.03-F6C83C2C-9000ID15-20200805
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12-1.04-2E189FF3-9000ID56-20220218
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12-1.04-4CA07005-9000ID15-20220218
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12U-1.02-6149B820-9001ID43-20200122
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12U-1.03-31D36981-9001ID43-20200805
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X12U-1.04-C92DDCA7-9001ID43-20220210
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S13JX-1.01-F374183B-9201ID72-20210819
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-S13JX-1.02-6A2F955E-9201ID72-20220210
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-213U-1.01-74DF37BF-9201ID58-20210819
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-213U-1.02-670B1681-9201ID58-20220217
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S13U-1.01-CE21042E-9201ID43-20210819
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-S13U-1.02-04230933-9201ID43-20220216
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-X13U-1.01-03AF521E-9401ID43-20220210
ASUS-BW-12D1S-U-E401-25424135-8600ID44-20130910
ASUS-BW-12D1S-U-E402-81C0FD1C-8600ID44-20180115
ASUS-BW-16D1H-U-E114-968CF7BA-8601ID71-20171221
ASUS-BW-16D1H-U-E115-D93DA305-8F00ID71-20190307
ASUS-BW-16D1X-U-E102-523563E4-8600ID76-20180115
ASUS-BW-16D1X-U-E111-95C4500C-8601ID76-20171221
ASUS-SBC-06D2X-U-1.10-A05DF1FA-8591ID22-20170418
ASUS-SBW-06D2X-U-1.10-9C3BA3C8-8511ID22-20170418
ASUS-SBW-06D5H-U-E101-3F03CED5-8511ID26-20180822
PIONEER-BD-RW_BDR-XS06JL-1.10-8AE8B9AB-8722ID03-20170622
PIONEER-BD-RW_BDR-XS07JL-1.01-0DC83800-8E20ID03-20200903
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XD06U-1.11-A16AD1CA-8B30ID69-20170622
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XD08U-1.00-14B331D4-9331ID69-20210512
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XS07-1.01-A470FBFD-8E20-20200903
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XS07U-1.00-D1E5568A-8E21ID05-20190107
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XS07U-1.01-1534D764-8E21ID05-20200903
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XS07U-1.01-32129473-8E21ID69-20200903
PIONEER-BD-RW__BDR-XU03J-1.03-891BC34A-8520ID69-20150629
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-AD07-1.03-FFA23F11-8D30ID32-20200820
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-AD08-1.00-49712FFD-9330ID32-20210322
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD02-1.00-3F2D4DE0-8410ID01-20121018
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD02-1.00-544B8C03-8410ID19-20120823
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD03-1.00-9E3A79AB-8510ID19-20130809
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD03-1.05-E49B95C0-8510-20151124
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD03-1.10-A059FCFD-8511-20170418
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD03-1.11-A522092F-8511-20181128
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-UD03-1.14-F39BF9BC-8511-20200615
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XS06-1.01-5BD07E84-8721ID69-20150324
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XS06-1.01-89148930-8721-20150324
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XS06-1.10-21C6167D-8722-20170622
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XS06-1.10-50D93BD9-8722ID69-20170622
PIONEER-BD-RW___BDR-XU03-1.03-A2589FEC-8520-20150629
PIONEER-BDW-PR1EPDVPP100-1.00-C17EC4E7-8680ID79-20151127

[Woodstock]

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Debug log started at Fri Feb 11 19:14:31 2022 , written by MakeMKV v1.16.5 win(x64-release)
001005:0000 MakeMKV v1.16.5 win(x64-release) started
001004:0000 Debug logging enabled, log will be saved as file://C:\Users\jeffb/MakeMKV_log.txt
Using 262272KB for read cache.
Network access is ENABLED, CURL version 7.72.0/Schannel/1.41.0 (x86_64-pc-win32) , proxy server not set.
No  SDF v080: HL-DT-ST_BDDVDRW_UH08LS10_2.00_20091026123456_H9M9B395441
DEBUG: Code 3 at kx/mIn.tna?p(7TlCFJMk\o%:29395310
SDF id v080: HL-DT-ST_BDDVDRW_UH08LS10_2.00_20091026123456_H9M9B395441
No  SDF v080: Slimtype_EB1_HLE2_RIDL002570WL
DEBUG: Code 3 at kx/mIn.tna?p(7TlCFJMk\o%:29395310
SDF id v080: Slimtype_EB1_HLE2_RIDL002570WL

Not worried about the UH08LS (so very old...), but the EB1:

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Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Manufacturer: Slimtype
Product: EB1
Revision: HLE2
Serial number: RIDL002570WL
Firmware date: 2017-04-25
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 72

LibreDrive Information
Status: Might be supported in future, keep fingers crossed
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8A10
Firmware version: GENE

[Coopervid]

Doesn't work with a BD-RW BDR-209D with drive platform RS8601. Discs not recognized.

Doesn't work with BD-RW BDR-211M with drive platform RS8800. Creates SCSI errors.

EDIT: Libredrive is activate for for both drives. Most likely the 209 doesn't support UHDs but the 211 supports UHDs and creates the errors.

[mike admin]

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Manufacturer: Slimtype
Product: EB1
Revision: HLE2
Firmware date: 2017-04-25
Drive platform: Pioneer RS8A10

Ah, this is a rebranded drive. Inside it is a Pioneer BDR-UD04 which is supported, but the identification fails, as the enclosure patches inquiry data. I did not know they make a rebranded Pioneer drives with patched inquiry. Will think how to work around...

[mike admin]

Doesn't work with BD-RW BDR-211M with drive platform RS8800. Creates SCSI errors.

BDR-211M should work flawlessly. Please send me the full error log.

[Coopervid]

https://1drv.ms/t/s!AhdE7WXu02uygUbNe6n ... D?e=eesosT

[Coopervid]

If you need it in English I can ask my buddy to switch languages.

[mike admin]

https://1drv.ms/t/s!AhdE7WXu02uygUbNe6n ... D?e=eesosT

Thanks a lot! A bug in current SDF.bin . Hopefully will fix in an hour or so...

[Woodstock]

If it helps at all, this is the Lite-On EB1 I sent the firmware dump on eons ago. I'll keep an eye out here for any changes or questions, and give it a try again.

[Coopervid]

We will see how this proceeds. Looks very promising. Mike is a genius . And a genie.

[mike admin]

Ok ok ok. Just pushed SDF.bin v81 . This should fix all recognized but non-working drives (with SCSI errors). The fix for unrecognized drive (one so far:) ) will take some time...

[MartyMcNuts]

According to the specs for my BDR-S12UHT,

BD-ROM DL (Ultra HD Blu-Ray) = 8x
BD-ROM TL (Ultra HD Blu-Ray) = 4x
BD-ROM SL = 12x
BD-ROM DL = 8x

Maybe the Pio drives are good because they are a bit slower? Damn quiet though, when ripping! I'm not really too concerned with the extra 20-30 mins taken to rip when I can't even hear it working!!

[Coopervid]

I will my buddies with the 211s check tomorrow. Feedback is certain.

[emrysblack]

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[SamuriHL]

Maybe the Pio drives are good because they are a bit slower? Damn quiet though, when ripping! I'm not really too concerned with the extra 20-30 mins taken to rip when I can't even hear it working!!

It's likely that's why the bu40n is so good, as well. I just grabbed a Pio drive earlier when I saw Mike's post. Call it a curiosity as to how well it reads compared to the LG drives.