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slim0287
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DVD with content shows as blank

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I've got an odd and frustrating issue. I have a few DVD-Rs which play fine in an Xbox One S, however when I try to read them with makeMKV it shows the DVDs as blank. The drive I am using is an archgon MD-8107-U3 which I flashed a couple of years ago following the old versions of the instructions given in this forum (viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19634). I am using makeMKV v1.16.5 and I've tried using three different computers-- an iMac, a linux box, and a Windows machine. I have several other similar DVD-Rs that makeMKV rips without trouble, and I've been able to rip Blu-Rays and 4K UHDs without problems. So, my issue is very specific to a small number of DVD-Rs.

I have only the two optical drives in my house (i.e., the archgon and the Xbox). If I could use the Xbox to rip the disk I'd do so but I am unfamiliar with any homebrew software that allows me use the Xbox drive in that fashion.

Any ideas and advice on what to do next? Thanks.
Woodstock
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Re: DVD with content shows as blank

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DVD-R is a funny beast. While most are non-commercial home-made disks, there are commercial, "burn on demand" disks out there, which often have structural problems. And the dye doesn't always provide readability for Bluray drives. Every one I own requires I dig out a DVD reader to get a valid rip.
slim0287
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Re: DVD with content shows as blank

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Forgive my naive question, but by digging out a "DVD reader" you mean a different, non-Blu-Ray, external drive? I clawed around my 'old electronic stuff' pile and found a Rioddas BT638 External DVD/CD drive and tried that with the same result, the DVD is found as blank. I'd purchase another DVD reader if you have another suggestion.

I also just bought a video capture card, so I can play this in the Xbox One and capture the video. But that's going to be painful and I'd much prefer to rip it directly from a computer.
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Re: DVD with content shows as blank

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Yes, a non-BD drive. I keep several here, going back to an original Sony USB/Firewire case with full-size Sony DVD drive in it, and occasionally have to use them.

I try to avoid buying "burn on demand" disks, but sometimes it's the only edition available, and none of my BD drives like them.
slim0287
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Re: DVD with content shows as blank

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My word we can read Egyptian papyrus that's been around for six thousand years and I'm struggling with a DVD-R produced last month :D

Unfortunately the "burn on demand" disks were the only ones available for purchase in my case. It's odd that of my three drives (one DVD/CD, two 4K UHD/Blu-Ray) it is only the UHD Drive in the Xbox which reads these particular DVD-Rs. I may go ahead a purchase another DVD/CD drive just to give it a shot as they are cheap. But I'll give the video capture card a go first, maybe it won't be too bad. My wife will just think I'm nuts when I hook up that contraption, but after twelve years of marriage she has gotten pretty used to that concept :lol:
slim0287
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Re: DVD with content shows as blank

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I figured I'd respond to my own thread in case it helps anyone out.

I bought a bunch of content on several DVD-Rs. I wanted to rip them because my household runs on Roku and I have a Plex server. At a rate of roughly two out of every ten DVD-R discs, when inserted into the external optical drive on my computer would show up blank so I could not rip them, yet they were playable in my Xbox One S. Interestingly, playing them on the Xbox One S required me to clean the drive with a laser lens cleaner first; they were finicky.

So, I tried to rip them with three drives, as follows:
1. Archgon MD-8107-U3 (the drive inside is an LG BU40N) UHD 4k drive flashed with v1.03 firmware for makemkv
2. Rioddas BT638 External DVD/CD drive
3. LG SP80NB80 Slim Portable DVD Writer

I did not open the Rioddas to find out what drive is actually inside although I learned it may actually be a very old drive from some other company (https://www.legitreviews.com/rioddas-ex ... iew_222217).

All three of these drives showed the disc as blank and it did not matter if the drive was connected to an iMac, a Windows 11 machine, or a Linux machine (heck, I figured I'd give different OSes a try even though the problem ought to be in the drive).

So, having invested altogether too much effort, I turned to using a video capture card to play the disc on the Xbox One S and capture the content. It is a far slower way to do it and much more annoying in terms of physical manipulation of components, but it worked. The Xbox One S contains a Philips DG-6M5S which I could buy but then I'd be in for a real voyage of discovery given it is decidedly not offered as plug-and-play.

At any rate, perhaps the above information will help someone from investing the kind of time that I did.
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