Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[daddy]

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Format                                   : MPEG-4
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Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
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Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

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Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.253
Taille du flux                           : 39,5 Gio (88%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
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Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 657 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Vidéo #2
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Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.114
Taille du flux                           : 4,45 Gio (10%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
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Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
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Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
Taille du flux                           : 771 Mio (2%)
Langue                                   : Français
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

[quietvoid]

So both Firestick 4K 2018 & Max look the same with the Spears & Munsil eagle beak shot.
I tried both original profile 7 and converted to 8.1.

It's not as yellow as with the LG C8 internal player.

L2 metadata isn't being ignored, so this might actually be the player-led issue.
Has anyone reproduced it with another device?

[ArArdin]

Sorry if this is discussed before. I assume yusesope's tool version (FEL to MEL + UHD-BD to 8.1 + SKIP HDR10+ + Experimental Muxer) is the proper one for adding the "-skip_hdr10plus" switch in the DEMUX.bat, but I can't get this to work.
Commandwindow says "Wait..." and nothing happens for ages. Without the added switch demuxing works fine. Anybody maybe knows why it isn't working?
Much obliged.

[staknhalo]

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Général
Nom complet                              : Z:\Marvel et DC Comics\L'Incroyable Hulk [e-ac3][4k][DV]\L'Incroyable Hulk [e-ac3][4k][DV].mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Profil du format                         : Base Media / Version 2
Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
Taille du fichier                        : 44,7 Gio
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit global moyen                       : 57,0 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

Vidéo #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit                                    : 50,4 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.253
Taille du flux                           : 39,5 Gio (88%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 657 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : dvhe
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Débit                                    : 5 678 kb/s
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.114
Taille du flux                           : 4,45 Gio (10%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Nom commercial                           : Dolby Digital Plus
Identifiant du codec                     : ec-3
Durée                                    : 1 h 52 min
Type de débit                            : Constant
Débit                                    : 960 kb/s
Canaux                                   : 6 canaux
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Echantillonnage                          : 48,0 kHz
Images par seconde                       : 31,250 Im/s (1536 SPF)
Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
Taille du flux                           : 771 Mio (2%)
Langue                                   : Français
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2021-03-25 13:20:00

Thank you very much

[mulucy]

So both Firestick 4K 2018 & Max look the same with the Spears & Munsil eagle beak shot.
I tried both original profile 7 and converted to 8.1.

It's not as yellow as with the LG C8 internal player.

L2 metadata isn't being ignored, so this might actually be the player-led issue.
Has anyone reproduced it with another device?

Not really able to answer your question, but I also own both versions, 2018 and 2021 models of Fire TV 4k Stick. Sorry if I am being redundant with my question. But can we safely say Fire TV 4k Max 2021 model does not play FEL DV, but ignores the El and acts like Nvidia Shield? If this is the case, how accurate the colors are with "MEL" at that point if it's ignoring the EL? Are there any test files to test it out properly @quietvoid? Any way I can help you with the test?

[chros]

So both Firestick 4K 2018 & Max look the same with the Spears & Munsil eagle beak shot.
I tried both original profile 7 and converted to 8.1.

It's not as yellow as with the LG C8 internal player.

L2 metadata isn't being ignored, so this might actually be the player-led issue.
Has anyone reproduced it with another device?

I don't think they use player-led (I was the one who suspected it): with our 2018 LG Oleds it's easy to notice, it produces the same banding/posterization as with HDR10 in PC mode (probably triggering the same low latency mode, where certain basic image processing is disabled).
So Oppo's player-led output is different from Firestick4k's output, there's no such issue with Firestick4k.

So, not sure why it's different, but we saw this with the black level test as well, that's why I stopped using Firestick4k, and use the Plex app on the TV instead.
If you upload samples and tell me exactly when/what to look for I can take a look.

[quietvoid]

Not really able to answer your question, but I also own both versions, 2018 and 2021 models of Fire TV 4k Stick. Sorry if I am being redundant with my question. But can we safely say Fire TV 4k Max 2021 model does not play FEL DV, but ignores the El and acts like Nvidia Shield? If this is the case, how accurate the colors are with "MEL" at that point if it's ignoring the EL? Are there any test files to test it out properly @quietvoid? Any way I can help you with the test?

I don't have a profile 7 FEL that looks different to check it out.
I'm pretty sure it ignores the EL, though.

So far regardless of profile 7 or (converted) profile 8, there's a difference in quality for the sample below.

I don't think they use player-led (I was the one who suspected it): with our 2018 LG Oleds it's easy to notice, it produces the same banding/posterization as with HDR10 in PC mode (probably triggering the same low latency mode, where certain basic image processing is disabled).
So Oppo's player-led output is different from Firestick4k's output, there's no such issue with Firestick4k.

So, not sure why it's different, but we saw this with the black level test as well, that's why I stopped using Firestick4k, and use the Plex app on the TV instead.
If you upload samples and tell me exactly when/what to look for I can take a look.

You can try this sample: https://mega.nz/file/cY1gEZzQ#eJIRMpZ2X ... PaGtY_35gU
The eagle's beak looks noticeably better in the internal player compared to the Firestick for me.

Next step is probably to try figuring out what's happening and if it can be prevented.

[mulucy]

Not really able to answer your question, but I also own both versions, 2018 and 2021 models of Fire TV 4k Stick. Sorry if I am being redundant with my question. But can we safely say Fire TV 4k Max 2021 model does not play FEL DV, but ignores the El and acts like Nvidia Shield? If this is the case, how accurate the colors are with "MEL" at that point if it's ignoring the EL? Are there any test files to test it out properly @quietvoid? Any way I can help you with the test?

I don't have a profile 7 FEL that looks different to check it out.
I'm pretty sure it ignores the EL, though.

So far regardless of profile 7 or (converted) profile 8, there's a difference in quality for the sample below.

I don't think they use player-led (I was the one who suspected it): with our 2018 LG Oleds it's easy to notice, it produces the same banding/posterization as with HDR10 in PC mode (probably triggering the same low latency mode, where certain basic image processing is disabled).
So Oppo's player-led output is different from Firestick4k's output, there's no such issue with Firestick4k.

So, not sure why it's different, but we saw this with the black level test as well, that's why I stopped using Firestick4k, and use the Plex app on the TV instead.
If you upload samples and tell me exactly when/what to look for I can take a look.

You can try this sample: https://mega.nz/file/cY1gEZzQ#eJIRMpZ2X ... PaGtY_35gU
The eagle's beak looks noticeably better in the internal player compared to the Firestick for me.

Next step is probably to try figuring out what's happening and if it can be prevented.

Thanks. I remember someone posted some homebrew videos for FEL to test the P7 on player called Dune? Can't find it anywhere

[quietvoid]

Thanks. I remember someone posted some homebrew videos for FEL to test the P7 on player called Dune? Can't find it anywhere

They don't work at all on the Firestick.

[mulucy]

Thanks. I remember someone posted some homebrew videos for FEL to test the P7 on player called Dune? Can't find it anywhere

They don't work at all on the Firestick.

True. Was able to locate them on avsforums. They don't play at all with Plex. Kodi is not ideal for me, but have you tried it?

[mulucy]

Thanks. I remember someone posted some homebrew videos for FEL to test the P7 on player called Dune? Can't find it anywhere

They don't work at all on the Firestick.

True. Was able to locate them on avsforums. They don't play at all with Plex. Kodi is not ideal for me, but have you tried it? On a second thought. Power Rangers 4K has flashing ending credit scene with FEL. I might try that instead.

[quietvoid]

I actually posted about this before: viewtopic.php?p=113491#p113491

[mulucy]

Would you be able to try one of the titles where the FEL is obvious (e.g. Power Rangers or Total Recall) to see if it is being used?

that's because I did those samples with tsmuxer and it breaks something in the RPU when you split the file. I didn't know about that back then.
As @FubbAyH said, the ending credits of Power Ranger is a better way to verify if FEL is processed.

The credits are grey like HDR10, so nothing new.

Bummer. Will test it anyway hehe

[mulucy]

Would you be able to try one of the titles where the FEL is obvious (e.g. Power Rangers or Total Recall) to see if it is being used?

that's because I did those samples with tsmuxer and it breaks something in the RPU when you split the file. I didn't know about that back then.
As @FubbAyH said, the ending credits of Power Ranger is a better way to verify if FEL is processed.

The credits are grey like HDR10, so nothing new.

Bummer. Will test it anyway hehe

Edit:
Just tried MKB FEL. You are right. It's not processing the EL

[daddy]

Thanks. I remember someone posted some homebrew videos for FEL to test the P7 on player called Dune? Can't find it anywhere

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/dune-p ... t-60582530