Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:02 pm
try this, I delayed the rpu metadata 2 seconds (48frames) of a genuine profile 5. (I'm not home so I didn't test the file myself)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ZxhjS ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Zjh-sZ ... sp=sharing
I can't seem to pickup a difference on my Apple TV 4K gen2 w/Infuse or on my M800X2. What happens if you delay the RPU longer or is there another method to make it more obvious?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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glc650 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:54 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:02 pm
try this, I delayed the rpu metadata 2 seconds (48frames) of a genuine profile 5. (I'm not home so I didn't test the file myself)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ZxhjS ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Zjh-sZ ... sp=sharing
I can't seem to pickup a difference on my Apple TV 4K gen2 w/Infuse or on my M800X2. What happens if you delay the RPU longer or is there another method to make it more obvious?
yeah , those samples are no good. There is no difference because the brightness (DV metadata) doesnt actually change for the whole minute.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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glc650 wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:08 pm
andyy wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:04 pm
Do you need an ethernet adapter to play 4k remux files without buffering?
I assume you mean at least Fast Ethernet or GigE? Fast Ethernet may not be enough with UHD discs spec'd for peaks well above 100mbps. GigE would be the safe bet or at least solid 5g WiFi (which is what I'm using with my Sony X800M2 since it only has Fast Ethernet).
Well yeah I mean do I need to buy an ethernet adapter to the Chromebook with Google TV since it doesn't have ethernet port. But I heard the insides of the thing are USB2.0 so even a gigabit USB-C ethernet adaptor wont help much.. I just ordered mine yesterday, will see how it performs when it arrives. :)
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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andyy wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:16 pm
Well yeah I mean do I need to buy an ethernet adapter to the Chromebook with Google TV since it doesn't have ethernet port. But I heard the insides of the thing are USB2.0 so even a gigabit USB-C ethernet adaptor wont help much.. I just ordered mine yesterday, will see how it performs when it arrives. :)
this is the one I use with mine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085X ... UTF8&psc=1
I don't watch uhd-bd rip on mine though,I mostly use it in my bedroom for appleTV+ and MA but it works great, I get 400/500 Mbps speed test with it. basically the same speed i get with wifi 5ghz but the cable connexion is more stable, especially when I use my VPN at router level.
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I bought this one for my CCw/GTV out on the patio:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QQ ... UTF8&psc=1

Reason being it was only $13 when I bought it and going out on a patio exposed to weather, as mentioned. Honestly it's been well worth it - it's OOS ATM but if it comes back in stock for the price especially it's great. A bit big/bulky is the only nitpick but it's all packed away hiding behind the TV.

Edit: Does anyone know how to edit HDR10 metadata of an HEVC stream? My encoder (Handbrake 1.4.0) passes through the correct metadata 9/10, but for Batman Begins MDL is max 4k but my encodes always end up MDL max 1k, even tried making new source from disc and it still happens. This is the only movie out of about 100+ so far it's done this with.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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staknhalo wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:11 pm
Edit: Does anyone know how to edit HDR10 metadata of an HEVC stream? My encoder (Handbrake 1.4.0) passes through the correct metadata 9/10, but for Batman Begins MDL is max 4k but my encodes always end up MDL max 1k, even tried making new source from disc and it still happens. This is the only movie out of about 100+ so far it's done this with.
AFAIK, handbrake doesn't have a complete 10bit pipeline anyway. You should try Staxrip (x265 GUI with tons of script), it can be hard to learn at first but once you get it , you can do so much more than handbrake and you will get much better quality encodes. Things like incorrect metadata won't happen with staxrip.

https://github.com/staxrip/staxrip
staknhalo wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:11 pm
Edit: Does anyone know how to edit HDR10 metadata of an HEVC stream?
you can try :

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mkvmerge -o X:\output.mkv --max-luminance 0:4000 --min-luminance 0:0.0050 X:\input.hevc
Last edited by RESET_9999 on Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:57 am
staknhalo wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:11 pm
Edit: Does anyone know how to edit HDR10 metadata of an HEVC stream? My encoder (Handbrake 1.4.0) passes through the correct metadata 9/10, but for Batman Begins MDL is max 4k but my encodes always end up MDL max 1k, even tried making new source from disc and it still happens. This is the only movie out of about 100+ so far it's done this with.
AFAIK, handbrake doesn't have a complete 10bit pipeline anyway. You should try Staxrip (x265 GUI with tons of script), it can be hard to learn at first but once you get it , you can do so much more than handbrake and you will get much better quality encodes. Things like incorrect metadata won't happen with staxrip.

https://github.com/staxrip/staxrip
staknhalo wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:11 pm
Edit: Does anyone know how to edit HDR10 metadata of an HEVC stream?
you can try :

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mkvmerge -o X:\output.mkv --max-luminance 0:4000 --min-luminance 0:0.50 X:\input.hevc
As of public v1.4.0 (before in nightlies) Handbrake encodes in full 10bit all the way through without converting to 8bit in the process - will try that and report back

Edit: Yeah, that would only change/set the correct metadata in just the mkv container, not within the actual hevc stream itself (what I'm trying to do) - and oddly when you do that it shows you both info to show you there's container and stream metadata I guess. Thanks though.

Not even ffmpeg could do it apparently (without encoding) - not for the MDL metadata at least

Oh well, I'll have to try some other encoding tools I guess
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Regarding LG WebOS players and DV inside .TS containers.
They always seem to stutter, was there ever a fix for this?

For the record, I open the m2ts file from the disc in yusescope's tool without any fel to mel or profile8 options.
Then I use the latest nightly of TSmuxer to mux the resulting hevc + ac3 5.1 audio inside a .TS container (no HD audio or whatsover).
Like this:

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General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : test_mux_exp_AC3.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 66.7 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 73.0 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06                                                 , BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 68.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.346
Stream size                              : 62.8 GiB (94%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Format settings                          : Dolby Surround EX
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 599 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
But when I play them, they stutter every 2 seconds, even when all processing options are disabled.
Is there some solution to this? e.g. a modified or older version of TSMuxer?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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staknhalo wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:27 am

Edit: Yeah, that would only change/set the correct metadata in just the mkv container, not within the actual hevc stream itself (what I'm trying to do) - and oddly when you do that it shows you both info to show you there's container and stream metadata I guess. Thanks though.

Not even ffmpeg could do it apparently (without encoding) - not for the MDL metadata at least

Oh well, I'll have to try some other encoding tools I guess
AFAIK, what matters is what is reported to the TV by the player. Last time I checked, changing the metadata with mkvmerge correctly change what madvr(htpc) send to the TV. I don't know about other players though.
you could also try this old software: https://www.videohelp.com/software/NVHSP

anyway, my recommendation still stands, forget about handbrake and take a look at staxrip.
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Can anyone help or point me to the post/guide on how to convert hdr10/10+ to DV?
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Ride_UL wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:12 pm
Can anyone help or point me to the post/guide on how to convert hdr10/10+ to DV?
it doesn't exist
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:41 pm
staknhalo wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:27 am

Edit: Yeah, that would only change/set the correct metadata in just the mkv container, not within the actual hevc stream itself (what I'm trying to do) - and oddly when you do that it shows you both info to show you there's container and stream metadata I guess. Thanks though.

Not even ffmpeg could do it apparently (without encoding) - not for the MDL metadata at least

Oh well, I'll have to try some other encoding tools I guess
AFAIK, what matters is what is reported to the TV by the player. Last time I checked, changing the metadata with mkvmerge correctly change what madvr(htpc) send to the TV. I don't know about other players though.
you could also try this old software: https://www.videohelp.com/software/NVHSP

anyway, my recommendation still stands, forget about handbrake and take a look at staxrip.
I concur, used Staxrip for many years.
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Probably been discussed over and over again so sorry, but what are people using to play profile 5 in mkvs currently?

As much as I don’t trust it from profile 7 attempts, I’m guessing it’s probably the nvidia shield? Kodi/plex?
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PlatypusW wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:05 pm
Probably been discussed over and over again so sorry, but what are people using to play profile 5 in mkvs currently?

As much as I don’t trust it from profile 7 attempts, I’m guessing it’s probably the nvidia shield? Kodi/plex?
I use a Firestick 4K with Kodi, works well for me.
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galarond wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:56 pm
Anybody know if Godzilla vs Kong is MEL or FEL, in blu-ray.com forums says the info shows as FEL but is MEL? Read about other movies with the same problem...theres any 100% accurate source for that info with all DV releases?.
EL with bitrate around 2 Mbps is MEL for sure


I wonder does anyone tested hybrid UHD HDR10 BL+p5 DV meta on Shield TV reagarding infamous red push issue? :roll:
Could be hard to spot...
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