Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:24 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:15 am

damn with all the players you've bought recently, you should've just bit the bullet and gotten one of the oppo clones :lol:
:lol:
yeah but just like the x700, the oppo cant play cropped DV properly. with all the appletv and amazon(hdr10+ to DV) content , it was a problem.

And now I can watch all the mel DV content via my network and only use my hdd /x700 for FEL. It's much more practical now. plus I get to reduce the amount of TS files in my library ( i prefer all MKV)
zidoo works surprisingly well, literally played every single file I tried.
Hi, have you installed latest firmware?
On your test pic it shows the BT2020 pic with 25hz, did you try 23hz?
Post in the Zidoo forum, Mark Swift has a Vertex2, if it is a bug he will get it fixed.
I’m mostly pleased with my Z9X after the latest firmware updates, it was a bit buggy for a long time after release.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DaMacFunkin wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:54 am
Hi, have you installed latest firmware?
On your test pic it shows the BT2020 pic with 25hz, did you try 23hz?
Post in the Zidoo forum, Mark Swift has a Vertex2, if it is a bug he will get it fixed.
I’m mostly pleased with my Z9X after the latest firmware updates, it was a bit buggy for a long time after release.
Hi,
yep, it's the first thing I did. I updated to the latest firmware via the settings. Is there a BETA firmware that I need to install manually?
Yes I tried many different files (23 /24hz), all the same. You can see the flag as well when you press ''OK'', the zidoo info menu shows RGB bt2020 signal.

I posted my finding on the zidoo forum :) thanks
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads ... ost-159429

Also, I personally don't care about this because I will use it for DV only but I noticed a severe black crush in HDR10/SDR using the Spears and Munsil black level pattern.
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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uhdiznotenough4mee wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:08 pm
I do not have any errors either in ffmpeg or dovi_tool. All is going smooth. Except when I try to play the final file in either mpv or mpc-hc I see glitches - for example in the beginning when the the logo appears, the picture will freeze for a couple of seconds and the sound is continuing. At that time the glitch in small rectangle in left upper corner will appear. Here are examples:
Have you tried using mkvextract instead of ffmpeg for the HDR10 base layer demux?
If there are issues with the injected file, they are probably present in the original demuxed bitstream.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:24 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:15 am

damn with all the players you've bought recently, you should've just bit the bullet and gotten one of the oppo clones :lol:
:lol:
yeah but just like the x700, the oppo cant play cropped DV properly. with all the appletv and amazon(hdr10+ to DV) content , it was a problem.

And now I can watch all the mel DV content via my network and only use my hdd /x700 for FEL. It's much more practical now. plus I get to reduce the amount of TS files in my library ( i prefer all MKV)
zidoo works surprisingly well, literally played every single file I tried.
What is cropped dolby vision? Which movies have it? When you say the x700 can't play those cropped dv movies properly, you mean it won't play at all or there are some problems during playback?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by uhdiznotenough4mee »

quietvoid wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:31 pm
uhdiznotenough4mee wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:08 pm
I do not have any errors either in ffmpeg or dovi_tool. All is going smooth. Except when I try to play the final file in either mpv or mpc-hc I see glitches - for example in the beginning when the the logo appears, the picture will freeze for a couple of seconds and the sound is continuing. At that time the glitch in small rectangle in left upper corner will appear. Here are examples:
Have you tried using mkvextract instead of ffmpeg for the HDR10 base layer demux?
If there are issues with the injected file, they are probably present in the original demuxed bitstream.
Brilliant. It seems to be working fine using mkvextract. Will test the result later but no glitches at all. Thanks so much, kind sir, for all the work you are doing.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:12 pm
What is cropped dolby vision? Which movies have it? When you say the x700 can't play those cropped dv movies properly, you mean it won't play at all or there are some problems during playback?
When the video is encoded without black bars (E.G. 3840x1600pixels). Bluray players expect black bars and when there isn't, the black bars appear grey. All the AppleTV and Amazon content is cropped.
see this post:
viewtopic.php?p=111867#p111867
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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uhdiznotenough4mee wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:08 pm
There is a difference between DV web-dl and remux HDR10 file in frames but if I understood correctly, dovi_tool should adjust it automatically for metadata. Am I right? Using the latest 0.5 version.
no.
this is true for the frame count but you still have to make the RPU start at exactly the same frame as the remux. I did every single bluray remux that didnt have DV and i think only 3 times, it didn't need frames adjustments with a JSON edit.

What movie is that ? i certainly did it and never experienced the glitches. I use tsMuxer for extracting.
MastaG wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:44 pm
EDIT:

does the Plex app for Shield support DV from MKV containers?
If yes, which profiles?
all of them as long as the file are remuxed into a single track format.
MastaG wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:44 pm

I'm looking to store my videos in a container which can also carry lossless audio, but is capable of triggering DV on both LG TVs and the Shield using Plex.

I know LG only supports AC3, but that's no problem because I can just store the TrueHD track as the second one.
tsmuxer it is then...
they will play in DV+lossless audio on the shield and in DV on your TV.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:17 pm
uhdiznotenough4mee wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:08 pm
There is a difference between DV web-dl and remux HDR10 file in frames but if I understood correctly, dovi_tool should adjust it automatically for metadata. Am I right? Using the latest 0.5 version.
no.
this is true for the frame count but you still have to make the RPU start at exactly the same frame as the remux. I did every single bluray remux that didnt have DV and i think only 3 times, it didn't need frames adjustments with a JSON edit.

What movie is that ? i certainly did it and never experienced the glitches. I use tsMuxer for extracting.
Cruella. Oh, I thought it is automatic now. So how exactly do you achieve that the RPU starts at exact frame as the remux?

I tried Soul 2020 too and I have seen your post in this thread. I had this warning in dovi_tool:

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n:\dovi_tool>dovi_tool inject-rpu -i hdr.hevc --rpu-in RPU.bin -o output.hevc
Parsing RPU file...
Processing input video for frame order info...

Warning: mismatched lengths. video 144645, RPU 144685
Metadata will be skipped at the end to match video length

Computing frame indices..
Rewriting file with interleaved RPU NALs..
Does this mean I have to adjust it via JSON edit as you did?

I had no warning in dovi_tool for Cruella though.

Now I am a little bit lost =(
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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You have to compare both versions frame by frame to determine if and how they have to be synced..
For Soul, see the posts here: viewtopic.php?p=111007#p111007
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by cannibalist2 »

RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:17 pm
MastaG wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:44 pm
EDIT:

does the Plex app for Shield support DV from MKV containers?
If yes, which profiles?
all of them as long as the file are remuxed into a single track format.
In terms of picture quality, is there a significant difference between single and double layer format?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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uhdiznotenough4mee wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:38 pm

Cruella. Oh, I thought it is automatic now. So how exactly do you achieve that the RPU starts at exact frame as the remux?

I tried Soul 2020 too and I have seen your post in this thread. I had this warning in dovi_tool:
Cruella if i recall correctly didnt need any frame adjustments. So you should be fine.
Soul, needed frame adjustments and your version definitely will have noticeable brightness jumps.

in order to find out the frame difference see this post: viewtopic.php?p=111054#p111054 and this post: viewtopic.php?p=111044#p111044
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:12 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:12 pm
What is cropped dolby vision? Which movies have it? When you say the x700 can't play those cropped dv movies properly, you mean it won't play at all or there are some problems during playback?
When the video is encoded without black bars (E.G. 3840x1600pixels). Bluray players expect black bars and when there isn't, the black bars appear grey. All the AppleTV and Amazon content is cropped.
see this post:
viewtopic.php?p=111867#p111867
Hmm... Any workaround?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:59 pm
uhdiznotenough4mee wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:38 pm

Cruella. Oh, I thought it is automatic now. So how exactly do you achieve that the RPU starts at exact frame as the remux?

I tried Soul 2020 too and I have seen your post in this thread. I had this warning in dovi_tool:
Cruella if i recall correctly didnt need any frame adjustments. So you should be fine.
Soul, needed frame adjustments and your version definitely will have noticeable brightness jumps.

in order to find out the frame difference see this post: viewtopic.php?p=111054#p111054 and this post: viewtopic.php?p=111044#p111044
Yes you are right, I just checked in AVSPmod and both DV_WEB-DL and HDR_10 for Cruella have 192664 frames and there is no difference in scenes - all fits perfectly.

So basically I need to apply this JSON for SOUL where I remove 56 frames difference and duplicate 16 frames with: "dovi_tool.exe editor -i RPU.bin -j edited.json --rpu-out RPU-edited.bin" and that's it? I can mux it and it should be correct?

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{
	"remove": [
		"0-55"
	],
	"duplicate": [
		{
			"source": 144628,
			"offset": 144628,
			"length": 16
		}
	]
Thanks a lot for your help - it's greatly appreciated.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:36 pm
Hmm... Any workaround?
nop. :( thats why i bought the zidoo device.


uhdiznotenough4mee wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:38 pm

Thanks a lot for your help - it's greatly appreciated.
you only need to adjust the start of the rpu. The end is calculated automatically.

so only:

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{
    "remove": [
        "0-55"
    ]
}
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Manixx2020beyound »

@quietvoid
Matching the dynamic meta using the analysis tool compared to a real decoded p5 rpu
If we split/scene @ different points when using the doblyvision analysis tool (resolve)
Xml dynamic meta should be different compared to an original master bc the scene
Selected is diff from the original I’m I correct in this theory?
So far I have changes in my l1 for scene
In other words knowing where the colorist desided to split the clip for analysis bc that’s where the scene changes take place
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