Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Well yes, the RPU is usually generated from the XML.
I just don't personally have a usecase for it, talked about it here: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1949650
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Malatesta wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:14 pm
i have a problem with one specific DV video the x700 won't play.
yep, some single-track dual-layer movies won't play on the x700. This is why it's better to use the dual-track dual-layer format because every single movie will work. Nothing i hate more than getting ready to watch a movie just to realize it doesnt play...

So you have two options:

1, demux with yusesope tool and rebuild a new DT-DL TS.
or
2, Get the original disc and remux a new DT-DL TS.
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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quietvoid wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:09 pm
Well yes, the RPU is usually generated from the XML.
I just don't personally have a usecase for it, talked about it here: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1949650
That would help the grading community,
For those guys like myself 4k,6k,8k cameras
And do their own grading without doblyvision license fees
No secondary trim pass doe.
To my knowledge the doblyvision fees are only for secondary trim passes/Rpu creation & final encode of the doblyvision master to hevc
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Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:00 pm
That would help the grading community,
For those guys like myself 4k,6k,8k cameras
And do their own grading without doblyvision license fees
No secondary trim pass doe.
To my knowledge the doblyvision fees are only for secondary trim passes/Rpu creation & final encode of the doblyvision master to hevc
Ok, not sure when I'll get around to it.
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galarond wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:12 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 pm
quietvoid wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:53 am

Never seen anything like what you're describing.
Very hard to describe what I see. It can't be captured on camera either. Need to watch the oled in a pitch dark room and then you will see such pattern. I have owned the c7, c8, and c9; all have this issue. It drives me nuts. I remember one guy on avsforum posted about the same thing a while ago but most people didn't notice it on their sets so they ignored his post.
i think i know what are you seeing...lol

i had that issue in my lg b6 when used a blueish color temperature and full motion like 10/10, then in some black scenes appears a white worm for some places lol, fixed with a standard warm50(2) and no motion, overall a standard recommended configuration, the lines started to appear when tried cold color or vivid configurations plus motion 10/10 and 10/10
I always keep temp color at warm 2 and motion off
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:06 pm
galarond wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:49 pm
Amazing, even my 4 years old brain (im 40 lol) can understand now, so my mp4 mel dual layer movies are the same as the p8 movies so i guess i only care about p8 movies if theres no uhd dv version of that movie, if not just stick with my original rip.
You can convert dual-layer profile 7 mel uhd bluray to single layer profile 8. You don't lose any quality and there's a benefit in doing that when you use a sony x700 bluray player.
P8 is actually the profile I use for all the MEL DV bluray because the x700 doesnt have the green screen bug with profile 8.

so here's how I watch DV movies on the x700

FEL P7 : remuxed to AVCHD bluray folder structure
MEL P7: converted to single layer profile 8 TS

*ts p8 playback will still have seeking issues with long movies and no automatic forced subtitles though.
Why dont you remux mel p7 to bluray folder structure also? That will avoid all the bugs, no?
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deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:41 pm
Why dont you remux mel p7 to bluray folder structure also? That will avoid all the bugs, no?
Because the seeking issue with long movies is very rare so it bothers me less than having to make a bluray folder and keep only one at the root of the HDD.
Of course for long movies (MEL) like LOTR/hobbits, I still use bluray folders for playback but for 95% of the mel movies, P8 TS works just fine without any issue. Plus I prefer to store my movies in my NAS in TS or MKV containers.
Forced subs is not a problem at all for me since I can easily find any subtitle track in SRT when I make my DV TS file.

I wish the shield didn't have color issues though(or that the ugoos was stable) because that is what I would use for mel DV. Dune and Zidoo player looks interesting but very expensive since I would only use for mel.
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:42 pm
Malatesta wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:14 pm
i have a problem with one specific DV video the x700 won't play.
yep, some single-track dual-layer movies won't play on the x700. This is why it's better to use the dual-track dual-layer format because every single movie will work. Nothing i hate more than getting ready to watch a movie just to realize it doesnt play...

So you have two options:

1, demux with yusesope tool and rebuild a new DT-DL TS.
or
2, Get the original disc and remux a new DT-DL TS.
Awesome. Option 1 using this guide worked like a charm.
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MP4 = no atmos nor dts-hd, no subtitle support at all and some dual-layer mp4 won't work or will freeze while every single dual-layer bluray folder or TS will work.

and you can have more than one movie on your HDD. you just have to separate them into folders and move the movie folder you want to watch in the root.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:02 pm
MP4 = no atmos nor dts-hd, no subtitle support at all and some dual-layer mp4 won't work or will freeze while every single dual-layer bluray folder or TS will work.

and you can have more than one movie on your HDD. you just have to separate them into folders and move the movie folder you want to watch in the root.

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This is with X700, correct?
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mulucy wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:34 pm
This is with X700, correct?
of course.
Sorry for my English.
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galarond wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:53 am
Well in my case my lgc1 doesnt support dts and my soundbar is a Jbl 5.1 so i guess the ac3 is enough for me, small room, and having just 1 file plus srt is more simple to me. I hate those white lantern style subtitles but nothing i can do.

The x700 have any specific configuration about image? i keep seeing difference between my internal tv player and the x700 with the same exactly image setting on the tv.

on the x700 i used output 4k (less freezing issues, but tried with auto too), 24p is in auto, movie convertion is in auto, color auto and of course hdr/dolby enabled.

Lucky i didnt found any mp4 dual layer not working on the x700, only the shining that freezes if you try to pause/stop but as now i can convert that in p8 the issue will be gone.
I dont know but most likely it's your internal C1 player that is incorrect because we compared a lot of devices and they are all identical brightness/color-wise: X700, Dune player, Firestick, Chromecast, UGOOS, Shield (only p5)...
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how do you play dolby vision mkv or mp4 with kodi 19.1? can someone help me?
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galarond wrote:
Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:36 am
sometimes i get 23 or 24 difference, even 29 frames difference.
maybe both sources are not exactly the same.
not true. I did this movie and the frame difference is the same from start to finish.
You're miscalculating or your sources are incorrectly muxed:
23.976 vs 23.976 (24000/1001)

EDIT:
you're using the newly 2021 remastered bluray right? not the old one from 2016 ?
I just checked at the start and the end of the movie and the frame difference is 24.

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you're obviously doing something wrong or your sources have issues...
I just compared the FTG bluray with the FLUX mp4...
checked 5 different frames and always got the 24frame difference.
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