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mulucy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:06 pmCan someone with Google Chromecast test a new update? Google just pushed a new software update, which is supposed to fix a refresh rate and enhance audio and video handling. Thank you!
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According to the post in reddit, this update did not add an auto frame rate
Google, Netflix, Prime have no interest in frame rate matching, it won’t happen on the CCwGTV.mulucy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:19 pmmulucy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:06 pmCan someone with Google Chromecast test a new update? Google just pushed a new software update, which is supposed to fix a refresh rate and enhance audio and video handling. Thank you!
Edit:
According to the post in reddit, this update did not add an auto frame rate
Out of curiosity, why do you say that? You'd think they'd be interested in having as good a presentation as reasonably possible for their service. Well, maybe not Amazon (I think their UI on all their products is a dumpster fire). But I would think frame rate matching is moving into the table stakes category of things for new devices that plug into an HDMI port on a TV. Are their other forces at play pushing in the opposite direction?DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:43 amGoogle, Netflix, Prime have no interest in frame rate matching, it won’t happen on the CCwGTV.
I had a chance to buy one and test it, packed it, and going to return it ASAP. Can confirm the lack of frame rate matching, kind of a big deal for me since I watch the mix of European content with some US channels. Can also confirm undocumented support for FEL DV, which works fine. I noticed some minor stability issues when you are skipping or rewinding, related to a black screen with sound only and no picture, but then it catches up with the playback. Chapters worked well with FEL ( some lags here and there, not perfect). SL DV files worked better with no hiccups. One of the main issues I encountered using Vizio ( my bedroom TCL 6-series did not have this problem ) is the playback was getting stuck whatever HDR format was used previously, either it was stuck at HDR10 or Dolby Vision. You can manually change the display settings and push SDR or restart under the system settings. Overall, it felt like a half-baked product with a laggy UI. It still needs some more development to polish the UI and make it more stable. Also, Disney Plus does not support DV if I am not mistaken, FYI.DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:43 amGoogle, Netflix, Prime have no interest in frame rate matching, it won’t happen on the CCwGTV.mulucy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:19 pmmulucy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:06 pmCan someone with Google Chromecast test a new update? Google just pushed a new software update, which is supposed to fix a refresh rate and enhance audio and video handling. Thank you!
Edit:
According to the post in reddit, this update did not add an auto frame rate
Hi I have the Nvidia Shield, they have a beta frame match option and an unofficial frame rate app which as now fallen out of development, the reason this has never got out of beta is Amazon don’t support it, Netflix used to support it but now it has come a convoluted mess.dcoke22 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:27 pmOut of curiosity, why do you say that? You'd think they'd be interested in having as good a presentation as reasonably possible for their service. Well, maybe not Amazon (I think their UI on all their products is a dumpster fire). But I would think frame rate matching is moving into the table stakes category of things for new devices that plug into an HDMI port on a TV. Are their other forces at play pushing in the opposite direction?DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:43 amGoogle, Netflix, Prime have no interest in frame rate matching, it won’t happen on the CCwGTV.
Wouldn't make sense to have that option disabled in system settings and have the service/app developer to decide from there?DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 6:15 amHi I have the Nvidia Shield, they have a beta frame match option and an unofficial frame rate app which as now fallen out of development, the reason this has never got out of beta is Amazon don’t support it, Netflix used to support it but now it has come a convoluted mess.dcoke22 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:27 pmOut of curiosity, why do you say that? You'd think they'd be interested in having as good a presentation as reasonably possible for their service. Well, maybe not Amazon (I think their UI on all their products is a dumpster fire). But I would think frame rate matching is moving into the table stakes category of things for new devices that plug into an HDMI port on a TV. Are their other forces at play pushing in the opposite direction?DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:43 amGoogle, Netflix, Prime have no interest in frame rate matching, it won’t happen on the CCwGTV.
The Nvidia devs are constantly told from the big streaming services that consumer research shows the average person doesn’t even register dropped frames or sped up playback, but they do register black screens every time they change stream/ exit to menu / play a trailer - the constant black re-synch screen on a streaming service is the biggest complaint by Joe bloggs on services that have supported it or attempted to support it that’s why your nicely consumer priced CCwGTV won’t push for support.
Chromecast with Google TV does support FEL/MEL with MKV/MP4 with lossy sound only. Sony X700 all containers but MKV, plus it supports lossless audio.
thanks!
Chromecast with Google TV does support FEL/MEL with MKV/MP4 with lossy sound only. Sony X700 all containers but MKV, plus it supports lossless audio.
Sony X700 - for the best picture quality
Google TV - convenience
If you are still seeing any red push, it has nothing to do with the Shield.mulucy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:19 pmI had a chance to buy one and test it, packed it, and going to return it ASAP. Can confirm the lack of frame rate matching, kind of a big deal for me since I watch the mix of European content with some US channels. Can also confirm undocumented support for FEL DV, which works fine. I noticed some minor stability issues when you are skipping or rewinding, related to a black screen with sound only and no picture, but then it catches up with the playback. Chapters worked well with FEL ( some lags here and there, not perfect). SL DV files worked better with no hiccups. One of the main issues I encountered using Vizio ( my bedroom TCL 6-series did not have this problem ) is the playback was getting stuck whatever HDR format was used previously, either it was stuck at HDR10 or Dolby Vision. You can manually change the display settings and push SDR or restart under the system settings. Overall, it felt like a half-baked product with a laggy UI. It still needs some more development to polish the UI and make it more stable. Also, Disney Plus does not support DV if I am not mistaken, FYI.DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:43 amGoogle, Netflix, Prime have no interest in frame rate matching, it won’t happen on the CCwGTV.
No matter what device I use or try, I find myself going back to Fire TV Stick 4K for convenience sake ( this small thing is a tank! It's so stable ). And if I want to watch movies with FEL and lossless sound, I just go with Sony X700. Someone also mentioned a firmware update for the Zidoo Z9X. It now pretty much supports all the formats and disks with DV except FEL playback ( it does play FEL but like Nvidia Shield with no Red push ). So it could be a great addition to a home theater setup if you care about an all-in-one streaming box ( BTW, the Blur-Ray menu is not supported on disks with DV )
Amazon and Apple have their own OS and as such are responsible for the up keeping of the apps that are deployed on that system so I believe.mulucy wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 4:39 pmWouldn't make sense to have that option disabled in system settings and have the service/app developer to decide from there?DaMacFunkin wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 6:15 amHi I have the Nvidia Shield, they have a beta frame match option and an unofficial frame rate app which as now fallen out of development, the reason this has never got out of beta is Amazon don’t support it, Netflix used to support it but now it has come a convoluted mess.dcoke22 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:27 pm
Out of curiosity, why do you say that? You'd think they'd be interested in having as good a presentation as reasonably possible for their service. Well, maybe not Amazon (I think their UI on all their products is a dumpster fire). But I would think frame rate matching is moving into the table stakes category of things for new devices that plug into an HDMI port on a TV. Are their other forces at play pushing in the opposite direction?
The Nvidia devs are constantly told from the big streaming services that consumer research shows the average person doesn’t even register dropped frames or sped up playback, but they do register black screens every time they change stream/ exit to menu / play a trailer - the constant black re-synch screen on a streaming service is the biggest complaint by Joe bloggs on services that have supported it or attempted to support it that’s why your nicely consumer priced CCwGTV won’t push for support.
It makes zero sense not to implement it regardless of what research says. Apple and Amazon had this option since 1945
Hi, use them as external?galarond wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 2:55 amHi, kinda off topic but related, if i already have a muxed dual layer DV mp4 file theres any way to add SRT subs to that mp4 without encoding the video? i tried several softwares but they converted the file to HDR or just doesnt do anything/gets errors. Thanks