Do you think some new 2021 TV with the last Android TV version will be able to run some MP4 or MKV DV profile directly from the TV without any external box ?
I was looking for a new TV and wonder if it will be possible to get that without my Shield Pro...
Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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psychoboust
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chros
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Come over the doom9 LG Oled with madvr thread we can talk about it more there.RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:30 pmso since my TV use maxcll (or MDL when no maxcll) and because maxcll is not very reliable(often incorrect), is it better to use madvr ''output in hdr'' with peak set to 700nits? what do you use ?
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DaMacFunkin
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When I had the CCwGTV no app would switch the refresh rate, not even Plex, it needed to be done in settings which lead me to believe frame rate switching isn’t supported on the device, I even tried the refresh rate app from the shield but it wouldn’t run.userr wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:33 pmdoesnt the plex app itself have framerate switching tho?norrellmeister wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:16 pm Spent some time with the Chromecast Google TV today with Plex. I confirmed that FEL is playing, as expected. Some mkv remuxes don’t seem to DV at all without manually switching audio tracks, because they start to direct stream instead of direct play due to audio codec limitations, and on this device that breaks DV. When DV does work, audio is often showing up as multichannel PCM on the receiver, as expected based on other posts here. Image quality looks really good, probably better than the Shield. I did see one situation where audio and video got out of sync, and one situation where the FEL layer was playing just slightly out of sync. This was visible as ghosting in Power Rangers white credits. Seeking in the video fixed that up quickly.
One more thing: stability is overall better than Ugoos, but I am seeing issues where if I switch sway from Plex, the video goes to HDR mode instead of DV. Restarting the video fixes it. Not perfect, but likely better than the Shield for my purposes, for P7 files.
The device was set to 24p manually, since it has no auto frame rate switching.
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mulucy
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What's happening with the main website?
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Epedemic
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Good question, seems like missing payment on hosting (or the hosting providers hosting), but that's just speculation.
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Epedemic
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So, i've about had it with the shield... the ugoos seems dead on arrival.... the oppo 203 is too damn expensive.... the chinoppo seems dodgy at best (and is also too expensive..... and the cc with google tv dosen't do lossless... That pretty much leaves me with the option of the X700... Correct?
Also, if i go down this path: is it possible to convert my .mkv library (with DV) back to bdmv folder structure, or do i need to rerip (or... ew... play discs)?
Also, if i go down this path: is it possible to convert my .mkv library (with DV) back to bdmv folder structure, or do i need to rerip (or... ew... play discs)?
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shawnc22
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What've you heard about the chinoppo being dodgy? I finally the took the plunge and got one last month, and it's been great so far. It plays all my full disks DV backups without issue. There're some simple things you can do like auto mount your network shares that makes browsing your collection pretty easy.Epedemic wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:41 pm So, i've about had it with the shield... the ugoos seems dead on arrival.... the oppo 203 is too damn expensive.... the chinoppo seems dodgy at best (and is also too expensive..... and the cc with google tv dosen't do lossless... That pretty much leaves me with the option of the X700... Correct?
Also, if i go down this path: is it possible to convert my .mkv library (with DV) back to bdmv folder structure, or do i need to rerip (or... ew... play discs)?
As for the x700, you're gonna have to demux your .mkv DV library back into 2 separate video tracks with yusecope's tool and then remux it into a ts/m2ts container for the x700.
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mulucy
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Don't want to be bad news, but I would not invest too much in FEL capable players. Most studios are gonna exit the physical disk market sooner or later. I heard rumors about WB exiting the market soon and focusing completely on streaming instead with HBO Max.Epedemic wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:41 pm So, i've about had it with the shield... the ugoos seems dead on arrival.... the oppo 203 is too damn expensive.... the chinoppo seems dodgy at best (and is also too expensive..... and the cc with google tv dosen't do lossless... That pretty much leaves me with the option of the X700... Correct?
Also, if i go down this path: is it possible to convert my .mkv library (with DV) back to bdmv folder structure, or do i need to rerip (or... ew... play discs)?
To answer your question, you will have to use Sony X700. I wish Chromecast with Google TV did support the lossless audio, it would have been an ultimate streaming player! Have you tried importing the MKV files in Tsmuxer and demuxing from there?
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GYTcool
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Thank you for your tutorial!I can now play Dolby Vision MKV files successfully, but I found a bug about the Exoplayer, that is… the embedded subtitles in the black edge cannot be displayed, this only happens when playing Dolby Vision MKV files.yusesope wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:59 pm Good afternoon everyone.
The weekend is approaching so it seemed appropriate to me to release something for you to play with.
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XTrojan
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I agree! But the fact that top end players like Nvidia Shield Pro can't accurately present DV (without FEL) makes me severely annoyed, i've somewhat given up on DV for now and just playback standard HDR10.mulucy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:04 amDon't want to be bad news, but I would not invest too much in FEL capable players. Most studios are gonna exit the physical disk market sooner or later. I heard rumors about WB exiting the market soon and focusing completely on streaming instead with HBO Max.Epedemic wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:41 pm So, i've about had it with the shield... the ugoos seems dead on arrival.... the oppo 203 is too damn expensive.... the chinoppo seems dodgy at best (and is also too expensive..... and the cc with google tv dosen't do lossless... That pretty much leaves me with the option of the X700... Correct?
Also, if i go down this path: is it possible to convert my .mkv library (with DV) back to bdmv folder structure, or do i need to rerip (or... ew... play discs)?
To answer your question, you will have to use Sony X700. I wish Chromecast with Google TV did support the lossless audio, it would have been an ultimate streaming player! Have you tried importing the MKV files in Tsmuxer and demuxing from there?
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bobbymkV
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Yeah, if I could go back in time I would tell myself to stop the quest for Dolby Vision greatness and do something else instead. It has been expensive, time-consuming, and ultimately pretty damn frustrating. I enjoy all the nice and like-minded people around here, but I should have just been content with HDR10+Dynamic Tone Mapping and Nvidia Shields.
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This is an adventure game. You have a goal. You have some tools that might help you achieve the goal. You have to obtain other tools. Wizards and Dragons oppose you. Some times you can glimpse the goal, other times it is obscured in a fog of doubt. Eventually, you discover that the goal isn't a solid object, but a concept that can be nebulous. And yet you persevere...bobbymkV wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:06 pm Yeah, if I could go back in time I would tell myself to stop the quest for Dolby Vision greatness and do something else instead. It has been expensive, time-consuming, and ultimately pretty damn frustrating. I enjoy all the nice and like-minded people around here, but I should have just been content with HDR10+Dynamic Tone Mapping and Nvidia Shields.
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Low Winter Sun
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I'm reading elsewhere that the Ugoos AM6 Plus can play FEL; why is it DOA? Does anyone here have experience with this player?XTrojan wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:30 pmI agree! But the fact that top end players like Nvidia Shield Pro can't accurately present DV (without FEL) makes me severely annoyed, i've somewhat given up on DV for now and just playback standard HDR10.mulucy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:04 amDon't want to be bad news, but I would not invest too much in FEL capable players. Most studios are gonna exit the physical disk market sooner or later. I heard rumors about WB exiting the market soon and focusing completely on streaming instead with HBO Max.Epedemic wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:41 pm So, i've about had it with the shield... the ugoos seems dead on arrival.... the oppo 203 is too damn expensive.... the chinoppo seems dodgy at best (and is also too expensive..... and the cc with google tv dosen't do lossless... That pretty much leaves me with the option of the X700... Correct?
Also, if i go down this path: is it possible to convert my .mkv library (with DV) back to bdmv folder structure, or do i need to rerip (or... ew... play discs)?
To answer your question, you will have to use Sony X700. I wish Chromecast with Google TV did support the lossless audio, it would have been an ultimate streaming player! Have you tried importing the MKV files in Tsmuxer and demuxing from there?
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dcoke22
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Go back to the second half of March, 2021 in this thread and you'll see a discussion about the Ugoos.Low Winter Sun wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:25 pm I'm reading elsewhere that the Ugoos AM6 Plus can play FEL; why is it DOA? Does anyone here have experience with this player?
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DaMacFunkin
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Basically the firmware has been stolen, cracked, leaked - rumours are the dev team have fallen out with each other and support going forward might not be forthcoming, in other words they may abandon the box and put development into a new box instead.Low Winter Sun wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:25 pmI'm reading elsewhere that the Ugoos AM6 Plus can play FEL; why is it DOA? Does anyone here have experience with this player?XTrojan wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:30 pmI agree! But the fact that top end players like Nvidia Shield Pro can't accurately present DV (without FEL) makes me severely annoyed, i've somewhat given up on DV for now and just playback standard HDR10.mulucy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:04 am
Don't want to be bad news, but I would not invest too much in FEL capable players. Most studios are gonna exit the physical disk market sooner or later. I heard rumors about WB exiting the market soon and focusing completely on streaming instead with HBO Max.
To answer your question, you will have to use Sony X700. I wish Chromecast with Google TV did support the lossless audio, it would have been an ultimate streaming player! Have you tried importing the MKV files in Tsmuxer and demuxing from there?