Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[DaMacFunkin]

Monashka
What you mean

He means Cheap Chinese boxes are using Ugoos firmware on their boxes, Ugoos encrypted the firmware but it has been cracked.
There is no financial incentive to develop software for a chipset if people steal it to use on non Ugoos hardware.

[bobbymkV]

Do cheap boxes with this SoC even exist or is this a direct incrimination of the developments with the Minix?

[bobbymkV]

I'm definitely on the fence about returning mine at this point as I'm not really confident in any improvements. I got my AM6+ through a marketplace seller on Walmart.com. The return policy was standard for a large company, but I was mistaken in thinking it was shipped from the U.S. I learned in the process that it definitely originated in China and who knows how much work it will be to get the seller to reimburse me and if I'd have to get Walmart involved. This is basically why people wanted the option of the Minix in the first place....

[DaMacFunkin]

I'm definitely on the fence about returning mine at this point as I'm not really confident in any improvements. I got my AM6+ through a marketplace seller on Walmart.com. The return policy was standard for a large company, but I was mistaken in thinking it was shipped from the U.S. I learned in the process that it definitely originated in China and who knows how much work it will be to get the seller to reimburse me and if I'd have to get Walmart involved. This is basically why people wanted the option of the Minix in the first place....

if the software improvements can be ported to Corelec then it won’t make a difference which box you have, all will be good.

[bobbymkV]

I'm definitely on the fence about returning mine at this point as I'm not really confident in any improvements. I got my AM6+ through a marketplace seller on Walmart.com. The return policy was standard for a large company, but I was mistaken in thinking it was shipped from the U.S. I learned in the process that it definitely originated in China and who knows how much work it will be to get the seller to reimburse me and if I'd have to get Walmart involved. This is basically why people wanted the option of the Minix in the first place....

if the software improvements can be ported to Corelec then it won’t make a difference which box you have, all will be good.

I just went through that latest CE thread (with appearances from you ) and that future doesn't look so bright as to require shades lol

[bgalakazam]

Ol' reliable X700 still going though

This Ugoos thing was too good to be true.

[bobbymkV]

Ol' reliable X700 still going though

This Ugoos thing was too good to be true.

Haha! I still have my Oppo 203 and its NAS capabilities to fall back on. These are obviously first world problems. I'm just so tired of keeping separate processes and libraries. I want the whole gang under one roof!

[RESET_9999]

This Ugoos thing was too good to be true.

yep, I still have hope but not much after reading the latest comments here

Ol' reliable X700 still going though

this player is amazing in my opinion. I read that it is sometimes buggy with disc playback but from my experience with file playback via USB, it's 100% stable/reliable.

last night I found another great thing this player can do: If you connect an HDR10 only TV and play a dual-layer DV TS file, the x700 is somehow tonemapping FEL with dynamic metadata to HDR10. I knew this worked for p5 files but it's very surprising that it also works with profile 7 DV FEL/MEL.

proof:

power rangers: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12510
Total recall: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12569


power rangers:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12509
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12517
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12515
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12516
fel p7 vs mel P8: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12565

Spears and Munsil:
1000nits version: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12547
10 000nits version: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12545
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12553
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12558
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12559
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12560
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12557
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12561
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12562

Vigilante: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12555

Wonder Woman P5 web vs P7 disc vs HDR10 disc: https://slow.pics/c/VSkrBW9H


fel test file:
*I encoded my capture file if you want to see the fel ghosting and dynamic meta flashing:(keep in mind, this is on an HDR10 TV.. so this is kind of ''dynamic'' HDR and 12bits enhancement on a static HDR10 TV/PJ it is basically what the vertex 2 has been promoting )
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NTBLLi ... sp=sharing

[chros]

That's indeed ineteresting, thanks, I bet the Oppo does the same.
I think everyone can try this out by forcing HDR10 output.

[HarperVision]

So what are the thoughts on what this professional videographer says about maintaining dynamic metadata (DV, HDR10+, etc.) when digitizing your UHD Bluray collection using mkv? It starts about the 11:52 mark:

https://youtu.be/1tDoWwSM-f8

[quietvoid]

So what are the thoughts on what this professional videographer says about maintaining dynamic metadata (DV, HDR10+, etc.) when digitizing your UHD Bluray collection using mkv? It starts about the 11:52 mark:

https://youtu.be/1tDoWwSM-f8

The statement is incorrect, UHD BD does not include metadata as XML.
It's encoded in the base HDR10 layer (for HDR10+) or in the separate HEVC stream (EL layer) for Dolby Vision.
The separate HEVC stream is already in sync with the base layer, so that decoders can decode both at the same time.

[glc650]

This Ugoos thing was too good to be true.

yep, I still have hope but not much after reading the latest comments here

Ol' reliable X700 still going though

this player is amazing in my opinion. I read that it is sometimes buggy with disc playback but from my experience with file playback via USB, it's 100% stable/reliable.

last night I found another great thing this player can do: If you connect an HDR10 only TV and play a dual-layer DV TS file, the x700 is somehow tonemapping FEL with dynamic metadata to HDR10. I knew this worked for p5 files but it's very surprising that it also works with profile 7 DV FEL/MEL.

proof:

power rangers: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12510
Total recall: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12569


power rangers:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12509
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12517
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12515
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12516
fel p7 vs mel P8: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12565

Spears and Munsil:
1000nits version: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12547
10 000nits version: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12545
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12553
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12558
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12559
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12560
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12557
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12561
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12562

Vigilante: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12555

Wonder Woman P5 web vs P7 disc vs HDR10 disc: https://slow.pics/c/VSkrBW9H


fel test file:
*I encoded my capture file if you want to see the fel ghosting and dynamic meta flashing:(keep in mind, this is on an HDR10 TV.. so this is kind of ''dynamic'' HDR and 12bits enhancement on a static HDR10 TV/PJ it is basically what the vertex 2 has been promoting )
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NTBLLi ... sp=sharing

I'm not following. All I see is screenshots of the madVR OSD (so how does that pertain to an X700?). Plus, madVR is converting HDR to SDR in every screenshot.

[Manixx2020beyound]

They are captured from the x700 & then displayed using mad-VR
Mad vr says sdr bc the capture is in PQ2084
So u can see what the x700 is outputting to your uhdTV more closely, p5,p7,p8, fel ect
X700 using the fel while playing HDR more to the point.
In other words Power rangers ending credits now play in bright white while playing hdr10 original disc.
Doblyvision attributes in hdr10.

[RESET_9999]

I'm not following. All I see is screenshots of the madVR OSD (so how does that pertain to an X700?). Plus, madVR is converting HDR to SDR in every screenshot.

mmm... don't you see the x700 OSD here: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12510 , if it was fake DV or regular HDR10, it wouldn't be bright white but dark grey as the BL is.
I uploaded my x700 capture clip of the fel sample from AVSforum which clearly proves that the x700 is able to use dynamic metadata + 12bit enhancement and tonemap it to any HDR10 display, just like the vertex 2 has been doing for a while.

all those screenshots are PQ captures of the x700 decoding FEL DV / tonemapping it to HDR10. So thanks to this x700 capability and as manix said, I can capture a ''difference'' between FEL, MEL, and HDR10. still not a true 12bit vs 10bit comparison but much better and more accurate than the dslr camera comparisons. In other words, I'm kind of hardcoding the dynamic metadata and FEL into a static HDR10 stream. Just like manix does with his atomos shogun (except that he can do it with any input device.)

I do the comparisons in SDR with identical madVR settings because it shows more the difference and It looks better with colors instead of colorless PQ images.

That's indeed ineteresting, thanks, I bet the Oppo does the same.
I think everyone can try this out by forcing HDR10 output.

yes I think so.

[chros]

Would you do similar experiment, what happens when you convert hdr10 to DV on the fly?