Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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mulucy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:21 am
I should have said that this device is the best android device in terms of capabilities but definitely not for stability. Especially when you are used to the stability of the x700 and an HTPC.

Once you start changing the colorspace settings, the device becomes very very buggy(i have not really tested plex).
Sometimes:
- DV gives a black screen, rebooting fixes that,
- DV just won't trigger DV: it even tonemap profile5 to HDR10
- HDR10 trigger HDR but without any metadata: just 12bits 422 bt2020, nothing more.

I don't see how someone would use this device without an hdfury device to tell if your current mode is the right one.
profile 7 is also VERY unstable (freeze, stutter, tv goes black, audio dropout), sometimes you have to start the movie 4times before it plays correctly. Profile 5 seems stable.
Hopefully, things get better with future updates but as for right now, I will still use my x700.
To be honest, I gave up looking for different players, takes too much energy, time and effort. I settled between Sony X700 and Fire TV Stick 4K. Movies with MEL, I convert to MKV and store it in my NAS so I can watch it later with Fire TV. For other titles with FEL ( the ones I deeply care about it ), I am gonna use your method with Blu-Ray folder in the root of the flash drive/HDD and enjoy it that way. Even some titles I started converting from FEL > MEL for convenience sake.
NiCE77
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:21 am
I should have said that this device is the best android device in terms of capabilities but definitely not for stability. Especially when you are used to the stability of the x700 and an HTPC.

Once you start changing the colorspace settings, the device becomes very very buggy(i have not really tested plex).
Sometimes:
- DV gives a black screen, rebooting fixes that,
- DV just won't trigger DV: it even tonemap profile5 to HDR10
- HDR10 trigger HDR but without any metadata: just 12bits 422 bt2020, nothing more.

I don't see how someone would use this device without an hdfury device to tell if your current mode is the right one.
profile 7 is also VERY unstable (freeze, stutter, tv goes black, audio dropout), sometimes you have to start the movie 4times before it plays correctly. Profile 5 seems stable.
Hopefully, things get better with future updates but as for right now, I will still use my x700.
Do not use Kodi. Plex and the factory Media Player app are stable.
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

NiCE77 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:09 pm

Do not use Kodi. Plex and the factory Media Player app are stable.
Plex is not an option for me because I want lossless audio.
Does the media player app support lossless audio and DV ?
Sorry for my English.
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DennisTheMenace
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by DennisTheMenace »

RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:15 pm
NiCE77 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:09 pm

Do not use Kodi. Plex and the factory Media Player app are stable.
Plex is not an option for me because I want lossless audio.
Does the media player app support lossless audio and DV ?
The ugoos video player don't work with mkv for me. But mp4 and .ts (ts profile 7 also sometimes buggy) worked.I use the kodi mod for mkv
I don't had tested plex
bedders
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DennisTheMenace wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:45 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:15 pm
NiCE77 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:09 pm

Do not use Kodi. Plex and the factory Media Player app are stable.
Plex is not an option for me because I want lossless audio.
Does the media player app support lossless audio and DV ?
The ugoos video player don't work with mkv for me. But mp4 and .ts (ts profile 7 also sometimes buggy) worked.I use the kodi mod for mkv
I don't had tested plex
What is your display and what options do you have available under Dolby Vision display settings?
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Lg c9

Dolby vision
Lldv Dolby Vision
Always on Dolby Vision
bedders
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by bedders »

DennisTheMenace wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:43 pm
Lg c9

Dolby vision
Lldv Dolby Vision
Always on Dolby Vision
And you have “Dolby vision enable” turned on correct? Not LLDV.
DennisTheMenace
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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bedders wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:47 pm
DennisTheMenace wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:43 pm
Lg c9

Dolby vision
Lldv Dolby Vision
Always on Dolby Vision
And you have “Dolby vision enable” turned on correct? Not LLDV.
Yes
bedders
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by bedders »

DennisTheMenace wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:57 pm
bedders wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:47 pm
DennisTheMenace wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:43 pm
Lg c9

Dolby vision
Lldv Dolby Vision
Always on Dolby Vision
And you have “Dolby vision enable” turned on correct? Not LLDV.
Yes
Thanks. I also cannot play MKV with DV through the inbuilt player with LLDV. It works with modified Kodi. I wonder how others have it working on inbuilt player..
Edit: I’ve been told inbuilt player only supports DV with MP4. Not sure if this is correct, haven’t tried MP4 yet
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Just ripped 1917 and after a little choppiness in the begining playback has been flawless.
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

I'm not able to trigger DV with mkv container on plex/ugoos... is there a special build that I need to sideload like Kodi?
I'm also getting 2.0 audio only...

For fun, I checked LLDV vs TV-LED and they both look pretty much the same to me(no big difference as Vincent showed on the oppo). I only checked one movie, one scene, so maybe the difference is not the same from one movie to another ?
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12104
Sorry for my English.
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bedders
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by bedders »

RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:11 am
I'm not able to trigger DV with mkv container on plex/ugoos... is there a special build that I need to sideload like Kodi?
I'm also getting 2.0 audio only...

For fun, I checked LLDV vs TV-LED and they both look pretty much the same to me(no big difference as Vincent showed on the oppo). I only checked one movie, one scene, so maybe the difference is not the same from one movie to another ?
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12104
Interesting..
If you check the CPU usage between TV led and player led is there much difference?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by lexyz »

RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:11 am
For fun, I checked LLDV vs TV-LED and they both look pretty much the same to me(no big difference as Vincent showed on the oppo). I only checked one movie, one scene, so maybe the difference is not the same from one movie to another ?
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12104
Check "Eagle" scene from SM UHD HDR Benchmark (around 6:34 time mark)
Pay attention to beak color
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norrellmeister
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by norrellmeister »

RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:11 am
I'm not able to trigger DV with mkv container on plex/ugoos... is there a special build that I need to sideload like Kodi?
I'm also getting 2.0 audio only...

For fun, I checked LLDV vs TV-LED and they both look pretty much the same to me(no big difference as Vincent showed on the oppo). I only checked one movie, one scene, so maybe the difference is not the same from one movie to another ?
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/12104
Gives your description, I think you might be transcoding. If Plex doesn’t think your system can handle the native audio, it will direct play the video and transcode the audio, which totally breaks DV. I spent half a day on this once on my Shield because ... I connected BT headphones and this issue broke my DV.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by DaMacFunkin »

Tried a full movie last night on the Mininx/Ugoos - They live.

I did a straight rip with Makemkv and the FEL presentation and Atmos surround was a delight, really good.

Bugs... after about 10 minutes I had a screen resynch but the movie recovered, then again about 52 mins I had a resynch but after that it was slightly glitchy (frame skips) so I paused the movie and started it again and it was fine till the end of the movie.

On pressing stop it didn’t unload back to the Kodi interface (best guess Dolby decoder froze, seen this on other devices) until I long pressed the power button (idk).

Overall this is the device, if the manufacturers can officially support this project we will have a winner
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