Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[Fuso90]

Hi everyone! Is there any better way to play DoVi directly on LG B8 internal player? Currently I'm using this way which is from the beginning of the thread I think and I didn't follow the thread lately. I see that I missed a lot... so if somebody can give a straight answer.

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mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 7.06 --input-file 1.hevc --input-file 2.hevc --input-file 3.ac3 --media-lang eng --output-file movie.mp4

[XTrojan]

About 3 year’s ago I realized that the Xbox LLDV could be captured so I started looking for ways to get the better picture it is a fact the all streaming services playback both type of file hdr & dv version & the dv
version has always been better quality than hdr10 @ reset999 could attest to that
Same should apply to uhd Blu-ray’s dv version of the move & hdr10 version.
We are looking for the perfect combination device Mel/fel/streaming/uhd/iso.
& of course top notch audio lol

Just for fun I’ll do hdr10 captures off wonder vision as well all 6 devices so we can compare to the LLDV we got from all six devices

Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose...

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg

How come the Ugoos can't auto switch to 24p? Isn't it running Kodi which has auto-switch function? Or does Kodi on the Ugoos not support DV FEL?

[Manixx2020beyound]

Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose...

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg

How come the Ugoos can't auto switch to 24p? Isn't it running Kodi which has auto-switch function? Or does Kodi on the Ugoos not support DV FEL?

Chromecast is the device.
Haven’t gotten my hand on the ugoos yet.

[mattmarsden]

Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose...

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg

How come the Ugoos can't auto switch to 24p? Isn't it running Kodi which has auto-switch function? Or does Kodi on the Ugoos not support DV FEL?

Ugoos does autoswitch framerate with Kodi.

[rosavanwinkle]

Any chance i can make that yuescope tool work on ubuntu? if so can anyone help me out with that on what i need to do? i already made a bash file for the python scripts

[hepe9]

There is no way that HDR10 would look better than LLDV which is much closer to or = to dv rgb8.
That would not make sense.
LLDV image is always brighter,sharper & cleaner than a hdr10 image.
We can do a bunch of hdr10/LLDV comparisons, to prove that.
98% of LLDV test captures always looks better than the HDR10.

It really depends on TV
By my observations in most cases Bravia XF90's HDR10 brighter than LLDV, not much but noticable
Like here https://slow.pics/c/5VaKhnAe
or here https://slow.pics/c/O4Yq9pCJ

I have the same TV, do you prefer DV to HDR even if it is less bright?

[Jman5150]

Forgive me for jumping in late here. I caught one of your posts saying you had a trick to get the sony 4k hdr only player to play in dolbyvision? Was it posted here? Id like to know this trick. Assuming i understood properly.

[Fuso90]

Hi everyone! Is there any better way to play DoVi directly on LG B8 internal player? Currently I'm using this way which is from the beginning of the thread I think and I didn't follow the thread lately. I see that I missed a lot... so if somebody can give a straight answer.

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mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 7.06 --input-file 1.hevc --input-file 2.hevc --input-file 3.ac3 --media-lang eng --output-file movie.mp4

nothing changed, only ppl arguing misleading things, same process is the only process, if plays ur fine if it doesnt theres no work around, 30% on dv movies play fine on my Lg B6 the rest with flickering or just stopping with a "run out of memory" message on my tv even with all apps force closed

Thanks. MP4 muxed DV movies play fine, but sometimes if I try to resume the movie or to FF or REW it's just get stuck and I have to play it from the beginning. That is when I'm using PLEX, through internal player I didn't notice any problems.

[bronan]

I have an Oppo-203 I've been using for UHD playback as well as rips from a network share. I just learned the Dolbyvision playback on it is less than stellar, it's much dimmer than playing through the TVs video app. I want to replace it, but what's the best UHD player out now for handling DolbyVision? Being able to play DV rips on a network share would be a huge bonus!

[glc650]

I have an Oppo-203 I've been using for UHD playback as well as rips from a network share. I just learned the Dolbyvision playback on it is less than stellar, it's much dimmer than playing through the TVs video app. I want to replace it, but what's the best UHD player out now for handling DolbyVision? Being able to play DV rips on a network share would be a huge bonus!

You already have the best player for DV rips via network. The only other option is the Sony X700 and X800M2 but those rely on DLNA for all network playback and they don't handle BDMV folders so you have the added step of remuxing to a supported container before watching. Also, neither Sony has gigabit ethernet so you may have buffering issues with higher bitrate movies (however, I have not had this issue on the 800 using 5g WiFi).

Did you try changing settings on the Oppo? Maybe you are using LLDV when you should be using TV-LED or vise versa?

[DaMacFunkin]

I have an Oppo-203 I've been using for UHD playback as well as rips from a network share. I just learned the Dolbyvision playback on it is less than stellar, it's much dimmer than playing through the TVs video app. I want to replace it, but what's the best UHD player out now for handling DolbyVision? Being able to play DV rips on a network share would be a huge bonus!

As glc says, Oppo is generally accepted as the best you can get for Dolby Rips.
Factory reset your Oppo and don’t change any settings except for source direct and TV-led processing, leave everything else as auto (Confirmed by Vincent). People have ate fancy to change the bit and colour depth settings, don’t.
If your TV doesn’t support TV led processing, then you are stuck with that picture and no other Dolby streamer will do it better as they all have the same LLDV sdk.
Also we have had this on this forum before where someone has stated that the internal player is brighter and it turned out the files he was comparing where ripped to different containers using different methods and the settings where different for each input, just because something is bright, doesn’t make it right.
I have a LG c9 and the Chinoppo, dual stream (not dual layer) mp4 looks the same via internal Plex as it does on Chinoppo via TV led processing.

[deadchip12]

I'm trying to add this file into tsmuxer (to mux it to .ts) but nothing shows up. Both the input files box and tracks box are blank. It's the first time this happens with a file. What's wrong with the file?

General
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom)
File size : 5.24 GiB
Duration : 33 min 44 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 22.2 Mb/s

Video
ID : 15
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.2@Main
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU
Codec ID : dvhe
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Duration : 33 min 38 s
Bit rate : 21.5 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 0)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.108
Stream size : 5.06 GiB (97%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
Color range : Full
Codec configuration box : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID : 16
Format : E-AC-3 JOC
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID : ec-3
Duration : 33 min 44 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 811 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 185 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 2
Complexity index : Not present / 16
Number of dynamic objects : 15
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Text #1
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Format : Timed Text
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 33 min 43 s
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Language : Danish
Forced : No

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[RESET_9999]

I'm trying to add this file into tsmuxer (to mux it to .ts) but nothing shows up. Both the input files box and tracks box are blank. It's the first time this happens with a file. What's wrong with the file?

yep, some mp4 won't show up in tsMuxer. I think it's because of the way they are muxed, the same happens when I mux DV with mp4box.
the solution is to demux the mp4 and then you can build a new TS file.

https://github.com/DolbyLaboratories/dlb_mp4demux

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X:\mp4demuxer_32bits.exe --input-file X:\DV.mp4

this is good for the video/audio stream but the subtitles will be extracted as .dat file... I use mymp4boxGUI to extract the subtitles to SRT.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/My-MP4Box-GUI


I also noticed that the x700 doesn't like the DV files that were encoded with cropped resolution (no black bars). The black bars are grey on the x700....
All the AppleTV+ web-dl have cropped resolution. The Shield has no issues with those files, I wonder if it's the same behavior on the oppo.

[bronan]

I have an Oppo-203 I've been using for UHD playback as well as rips from a network share. I just learned the Dolbyvision playback on it is less than stellar, it's much dimmer than playing through the TVs video app. I want to replace it, but what's the best UHD player out now for handling DolbyVision? Being able to play DV rips on a network share would be a huge bonus!

As glc says, Oppo is generally accepted as the best you can get for Dolby Rips.
Factory reset your Oppo and don’t change any settings except for source direct and TV-led processing, leave everything else as auto (Confirmed by Vincent). People have ate fancy to change the bit and colour depth settings, don’t.
If your TV doesn’t support TV led processing, then you are stuck with that picture and no other Dolby streamer will do it better as they all have the same LLDV sdk.
Also we have had this on this forum before where someone has stated that the internal player is brighter and it turned out the files he was comparing where ripped to different containers using different methods and the settings where different for each input, just because something is bright, doesn’t make it right.
I have a LG c9 and the Chinoppo, dual stream (not dual layer) mp4 looks the same via internal Plex as it does on Chinoppo via TV led processing.

Thanks for the help! I am comparing m2ts, ts and mp4 containers via the built-in LG CX video player and Plex versus the Oppo. I had tried changing between TV and Player led but strangely both looked the same - dim and flat. I did a factory reset on the Oppo and now the TV and Player led settings look different. The Player led looks similar to before, while the TV led is actually overly bright now using the same video settings. So that's a bit weird, but after notching down Brightness its close enough that I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

[Manixx2020beyound]

Ending credits Power rangers
Hdr10 version is faded
LLDV dune version not playing Fel from iso.
Sony x700 LLDV using the Fel.
As we can see LLDV on dune looks worse than the real hdr10 comparison when not using the fel.
And when internal LLDV processing is done right fel it is clearly diff from hdr10.

Actually during playback on the dune just the ending credit there were green white red blue flashing in the background as it seems to disregard the fel on the fly.

If anyone can show a comparison with the real hdr10 credits looking like the x700lldv I’ll rest my case that LLDV is NOT worse than hdr10.lol

Fel

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