Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yossSP
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by yossSP »

Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:39 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:14 pm
XTrojan wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:05 am
So much words being thrown left and right, can't someone just test Sony X800M2, Ugoos and Minix with DV FEL and then post a few pictures to see the differences (if there are any) ?
Well, I'll get my ugoos next week (probably) and I will surely compare it to my x700 and shield and share my impression...
I don't have the expensive Atomos Shogun that @manix has though.
About 3 year’s ago I realized that the Xbox LLDV could be captured so I started looking for ways to get the better picture it is a fact the all streaming services playback both type of file hdr & dv version & the dv
version has always been better quality than hdr10 @ reset999 could attest to that
Same should apply to uhd Blu-ray’s dv version of the move & hdr10 version.
We are looking for the perfect combination device Mel/fel/streaming/uhd/iso.
& of course top notch audio lol

Just for fun I’ll do hdr10 captures off wonder vision as well all 6 devices so we can compare to the LLDV we got from all six devices
Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose... :wink:

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.
Manixx2020beyound
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Manixx2020beyound »

yossSP wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:56 am
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:39 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:14 pm


Well, I'll get my ugoos next week (probably) and I will surely compare it to my x700 and shield and share my impression...
I don't have the expensive Atomos Shogun that @manix has though.
About 3 year’s ago I realized that the Xbox LLDV could be captured so I started looking for ways to get the better picture it is a fact the all streaming services playback both type of file hdr & dv version & the dv
version has always been better quality than hdr10 @ reset999 could attest to that
Same should apply to uhd Blu-ray’s dv version of the move & hdr10 version.
We are looking for the perfect combination device Mel/fel/streaming/uhd/iso.
& of course top notch audio lol

Just for fun I’ll do hdr10 captures off wonder vision as well all 6 devices so we can compare to the LLDV we got from all six devices
Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose... :wink:

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg
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yossSP
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by yossSP »

Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:00 am
yossSP wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:56 am
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:39 pm


About 3 year’s ago I realized that the Xbox LLDV could be captured so I started looking for ways to get the better picture it is a fact the all streaming services playback both type of file hdr & dv version & the dv
version has always been better quality than hdr10 @ reset999 could attest to that
Same should apply to uhd Blu-ray’s dv version of the move & hdr10 version.
We are looking for the perfect combination device Mel/fel/streaming/uhd/iso.
& of course top notch audio lol

Just for fun I’ll do hdr10 captures off wonder vision as well all 6 devices so we can compare to the LLDV we got from all six devices
Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose... :wink:

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg
Great Manixx, thanks for your tests!
you have finally been able to confirm what I was observing :)
Still waiting for next discoveries.

PS: sorry, I can't give support to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el :(
Fuso90
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Fuso90 »

Hi everyone! Is there any better way to play DoVi directly on LG B8 internal player? Currently I'm using this way which is from the beginning of the thread I think and I didn't follow the thread lately. I see that I missed a lot... so if somebody can give a straight answer.

Code: Select all

mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 7.06 --input-file 1.hevc --input-file 2.hevc --input-file 3.ac3 --media-lang eng --output-file movie.mp4
XTrojan
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by XTrojan »

Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:00 am
yossSP wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:56 am
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:39 pm


About 3 year’s ago I realized that the Xbox LLDV could be captured so I started looking for ways to get the better picture it is a fact the all streaming services playback both type of file hdr & dv version & the dv
version has always been better quality than hdr10 @ reset999 could attest to that
Same should apply to uhd Blu-ray’s dv version of the move & hdr10 version.
We are looking for the perfect combination device Mel/fel/streaming/uhd/iso.
& of course top notch audio lol

Just for fun I’ll do hdr10 captures off wonder vision as well all 6 devices so we can compare to the LLDV we got from all six devices
Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose... :wink:

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg
How come the Ugoos can't auto switch to 24p? Isn't it running Kodi which has auto-switch function? Or does Kodi on the Ugoos not support DV FEL?
Manixx2020beyound
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Manixx2020beyound »

XTrojan wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:19 pm
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:00 am
yossSP wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:56 am


Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose... :wink:

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg
How come the Ugoos can't auto switch to 24p? Isn't it running Kodi which has auto-switch function? Or does Kodi on the Ugoos not support DV FEL?
Chromecast is the device.
Haven’t gotten my hand on the ugoos yet.
mattmarsden
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by mattmarsden »

XTrojan wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:19 pm
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:00 am
yossSP wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:56 am


Hi Manixx, nice to read this, so the new Chromecast with february firmware is in your list, I supose... :wink:

As I mentioned before it should support TV-LED and LLDV so it's possible that your Vertex cause the Chromecast enables LLDV processing.

It shouldn't happen when connected directly to an HDMI port of a TV-LED TV.

Quite possible,
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11845
Looks identical to the Sony which is a good thing, going to do some some Uhbd test on it me/fel well going to try,
if it does have tv-led that’s a plus of course
Most movies are 23.976 anyway which u have to set manually. But for the price it beets the dune on fel & many other devices
Just tested the Knowing which is FEL as well watching looks good too,
I made a single layer fel ts using make mkv 1st.
Ok got a nob question for u guys that make
Thes conversions
How did I manage to get profile 8 with bl-Rpu-el ??
Please help on that part is that real
580AE215-6C13-48C9-8F41-87E06AD7C3EC.jpeg
How come the Ugoos can't auto switch to 24p? Isn't it running Kodi which has auto-switch function? Or does Kodi on the Ugoos not support DV FEL?
Ugoos does autoswitch framerate with Kodi.
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Any chance i can make that yuescope tool work on ubuntu? if so can anyone help me out with that on what i need to do? i already made a bash file for the python scripts
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Post by hepe9 »

lexyz wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:19 pm
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:53 am
There is no way that HDR10 would look better than LLDV which is much closer to or = to dv rgb8.
That would not make sense.
LLDV image is always brighter,sharper & cleaner than a hdr10 image.
We can do a bunch of hdr10/LLDV comparisons, to prove that.
98% of LLDV test captures always looks better than the HDR10.
It really depends on TV
By my observations in most cases Bravia XF90's HDR10 brighter than LLDV, not much but noticable
Like here https://slow.pics/c/5VaKhnAe
or here https://slow.pics/c/O4Yq9pCJ
I have the same TV, do you prefer DV to HDR even if it is less bright?
Jman5150
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Post by Jman5150 »

Forgive me for jumping in late here. I caught one of your posts saying you had a trick to get the sony 4k hdr only player to play in dolbyvision? Was it posted here? Id like to know this trick. Assuming i understood properly.
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Post by Fuso90 »

galarond wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:46 pm
Fuso90 wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:36 am
Hi everyone! Is there any better way to play DoVi directly on LG B8 internal player? Currently I'm using this way which is from the beginning of the thread I think and I didn't follow the thread lately. I see that I missed a lot... so if somebody can give a straight answer.

Code: Select all

mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 7.06 --input-file 1.hevc --input-file 2.hevc --input-file 3.ac3 --media-lang eng --output-file movie.mp4
nothing changed, only ppl arguing misleading things, same process is the only process, if plays ur fine if it doesnt theres no work around, 30% on dv movies play fine on my Lg B6 the rest with flickering or just stopping with a "run out of memory" message on my tv even with all apps force closed

Thanks. MP4 muxed DV movies play fine, but sometimes if I try to resume the movie or to FF or REW it's just get stuck and I have to play it from the beginning. That is when I'm using PLEX, through internal player I didn't notice any problems.
bronan
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Post by bronan »

I have an Oppo-203 I've been using for UHD playback as well as rips from a network share. I just learned the Dolbyvision playback on it is less than stellar, it's much dimmer than playing through the TVs video app. I want to replace it, but what's the best UHD player out now for handling DolbyVision? Being able to play DV rips on a network share would be a huge bonus!
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Post by glc650 »

bronan wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:52 pm
I have an Oppo-203 I've been using for UHD playback as well as rips from a network share. I just learned the Dolbyvision playback on it is less than stellar, it's much dimmer than playing through the TVs video app. I want to replace it, but what's the best UHD player out now for handling DolbyVision? Being able to play DV rips on a network share would be a huge bonus!
You already have the best player for DV rips via network. The only other option is the Sony X700 and X800M2 but those rely on DLNA for all network playback and they don't handle BDMV folders so you have the added step of remuxing to a supported container before watching. Also, neither Sony has gigabit ethernet so you may have buffering issues with higher bitrate movies (however, I have not had this issue on the 800 using 5g WiFi).

Did you try changing settings on the Oppo? Maybe you are using LLDV when you should be using TV-LED or vise versa?
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Post by DaMacFunkin »

bronan wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:52 pm
I have an Oppo-203 I've been using for UHD playback as well as rips from a network share. I just learned the Dolbyvision playback on it is less than stellar, it's much dimmer than playing through the TVs video app. I want to replace it, but what's the best UHD player out now for handling DolbyVision? Being able to play DV rips on a network share would be a huge bonus!
As glc says, Oppo is generally accepted as the best you can get for Dolby Rips.
Factory reset your Oppo and don’t change any settings except for source direct and TV-led processing, leave everything else as auto (Confirmed by Vincent). People have ate fancy to change the bit and colour depth settings, don’t.
If your TV doesn’t support TV led processing, then you are stuck with that picture and no other Dolby streamer will do it better as they all have the same LLDV sdk.
Also we have had this on this forum before where someone has stated that the internal player is brighter and it turned out the files he was comparing where ripped to different containers using different methods and the settings where different for each input, just because something is bright, doesn’t make it right.
I have a LG c9 and the Chinoppo, dual stream (not dual layer) mp4 looks the same via internal Plex as it does on Chinoppo via TV led processing.
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I'm trying to add this file into tsmuxer (to mux it to .ts) but nothing shows up. Both the input files box and tracks box are blank. It's the first time this happens with a file. What's wrong with the file?

General
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom)
File size : 5.24 GiB
Duration : 33 min 44 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 22.2 Mb/s

Video
ID : 15
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.2@Main
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU
Codec ID : dvhe
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Duration : 33 min 38 s
Bit rate : 21.5 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 0)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.108
Stream size : 5.06 GiB (97%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
Color range : Full
Codec configuration box : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID : 16
Format : E-AC-3 JOC
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID : ec-3
Duration : 33 min 44 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 811 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 185 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 2
Complexity index : Not present / 16
Number of dynamic objects : 15
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Text #1
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Format : Timed Text
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 33 min 43 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
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Stream size : 12.6 KiB (0%)
Title : Dansk
Language : Danish
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Duration : 33 min 43 s
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