Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
I just tried a FEL mkv (07.06 BL+EL+RPU) on Firestick 4k with final v19.0 Kodi and it triggers DV on the TV but the image is blank (black)
I guess that's expected.
I guess that's expected.
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Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Is there a step by step guide for how and what to remux with tsMuxer? I’ve tried doing a few and I’m not sure the end result is what was desired or needed.RESET_9999 wrote:Manix should be able to test the Chromecast as well. He doesn't own the Ugoos.dysprosium wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:41 amThanks for the comparisons; unfortunate to see that the EL is ignored again. It would be great to get the same FEL/colour accuracy comparisons on the Ugoos AM6 Plus and the Chromecast with Google TV if possible, now that there are some reports that they properly decode FEL.
yeah, it's probably because of the splitting...yossSP wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:45 amDamn it... only Total.Recall.1990.SL-P8-MEL.mkv file enable Dolby Vision with my Chromecast with Google TV, every other file plays in HDR10.
I tried to create a mkv file via MakeMKV from the .iso, but it does the same. So I can't test the FEL processing...
The other samples worked well and other DV FEL files also do it fine, but not these ones... anyone can contribute with a solution?
Thanks in any case
FFmpeg gives me some warning when I try to demux the splitted layers.
Since you have the x800m2, why don't you just remux your bluray with tsmuxer and play them via USB ?HarperVision wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:07 amI have ripped the movie The Meg to .mp4 DV single layer using DVDFab and it shows up as DV in the Infuse GUI and plays as such just fine. The colors seem the same as when I play the disc in my Sony X800M2. I’m an ISF Certified Calibrator amongst many other industry things for 30+ years so would notice if color was amiss. What color issue is it that I’m supposed to be looking for exactly?
The only reason I’m not satisfied at this point is due to the lack of ATMOS audio.
So am I reading right that the new Chromecast Google TV is capable of playing all DV profiles with MEL and FEL and ATMOS?
Even if profile 5 with HDR10 base layer ''could'' be looking right, you're missing the EL.
not fixed, it's a tsmuxer bug. But the oppo can play ISO without the bug, so just use that format.mattmarsden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:51 pmThinking of going for an Oppo 203 for DV - does anyone know if the issue of the green garbled screen after playing a DV m2ts has been solved?
I’m not sure I like the GUI/Menu trees and process of watching using the X800M2. Frankly it’s ugly and takes me back a few decades. There’s no cover art, etc. By the time I navigate all the way into it to get to the movie file, I could’ve inserted the disc and played a better version of the movie with full ATMOS.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
It is by far the easiest and fastest method. Get the latest tsMuxer here: https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releasesHarperVision wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:08 pmIs there a step by step guide for how and what to remux with tsMuxer? I’ve tried doing a few and umm not sure the end result is what was desired or needed.
I’m not sure I like the GUI/Menu trees and process of watching using the X800M2. Frankly it’s ugly and takes me back a few decades. There’s no cover art, etc. By the time I navigate all the way into it to get to the movie file, I could’ve inserted the disc and played a better version of the movie with full ATMOS.
then just drag and drop the largest m2ts file (or the corresponding playlist file) into tsmuxer, select the track you want to keep and start muxing.
There is no quality loss compared to the disc playback and you can keep full ATMOS and subs.
https://screenshotcomparison.com/compar ... p?id=11322
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Thanks!RESET_9999 wrote:It is by far the easiest and fastest method. Get the latest tsMuxer here: https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releasesHarperVision wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:08 pmIs there a step by step guide for how and what to remux with tsMuxer? I’ve tried doing a few and umm not sure the end result is what was desired or needed.
I’m not sure I like the GUI/Menu trees and process of watching using the X800M2. Frankly it’s ugly and takes me back a few decades. There’s no cover art, etc. By the time I navigate all the way into it to get to the movie file, I could’ve inserted the disc and played a better version of the movie with full ATMOS.
then just drag and drop the largest m2ts file (or the corresponding playlist file) into tsmuxer, select the track you want to keep and start muxing.
There is no quality loss compared to the disc playback and you can keep full ATMOS and subs.
https://screenshotcomparison.com/compar ... p?id=11321
What is the fastest method?
So what exactly is muxing doing? If I rip my movie using DVDFab I can play it in that format already, so why mux it?
How do I know what track to keep after dragging and dropping the largest file (or playlist)? Which and why am I choosing it?
This is what I’m talking about. Every answer I see on these corresponding threads are always so short and abbreviated, assuming the reader just knows everything involved already. It seems nobody ever makes a post with step by step instructions with clear and concise answers as to why and what you’re doing. That’s how I learn anyway.
Either way, thanks a ton for helping me get there!
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Thanks for your tests! @Manixx2020beyound @RESET_9999
According to Dune's FW changelog, the FEL layer is supported on FullBlurays only, and only MEL layer on MKV. It is right ? or does the FEL layer really not work on ISO and BD either?
I can play without problems FEL DV files with "Dolby VS10 Engine Always" enabled.
On the other hand, if the FEL layer is not really taken into account by the Dune, even if it reproduces it ..
my TV is an LG OLED, compatible with FEL, in principle? If I select "Dolby Vision Output Mode" in "tv-led", would the benefit of the FEL layer from Dune to LG OLED?
Thanks!!
According to Dune's FW changelog, the FEL layer is supported on FullBlurays only, and only MEL layer on MKV. It is right ? or does the FEL layer really not work on ISO and BD either?
I can play without problems FEL DV files with "Dolby VS10 Engine Always" enabled.
On the other hand, if the FEL layer is not really taken into account by the Dune, even if it reproduces it ..
my TV is an LG OLED, compatible with FEL, in principle? If I select "Dolby Vision Output Mode" in "tv-led", would the benefit of the FEL layer from Dune to LG OLED?
Thanks!!
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 am@Manixx2020beyound finally got his hands on the new Dune player, time to do some comparisons
Unfortunately, the Dune does like the Shield and ignores the EL but there is no red push and the colors seem to be accurate. Even though it looks like the dune is ignoring the EL, there is still an improvement compared to the base layer. We have to compare it with a P8 rip.
Of course, this is an extreme case and it wouldn't be so different if the studios encoded the base layer properly in the first place but the improvement that the FEL brings here is phenomenal, imaging when we'll have true 12bit TV.
DV captured in PQ with the latest Atomos Shogun.
2160p comparisons
tonemapped to SDR comparisons ( madVR static 300nits):
Dune FEL DV ISO vs X700 FEL DV: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11367
Dune FEL DV ISO vs HDR10 bluray remux:https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11365
X700 FEL DV vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11366
1080p comparisons
tonemapped to SDR comparisons ( madVR static 300nits):
Dune FEL DV ISO vs X700 FEL DV: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11372
Dune FEL DV ISO vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11374
X700 FEL DV vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/11375
Dune FEL vs Dune P8 vs X700 FEL vs HDR10 bluray remux: https://slow.pics/c/nCcd2BlK
untouched PQ images from the Shogun:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16HOh1R ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17-XW-E ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18qNpoU ... sp=sharing
interesting, the size difference of the lossless png...
I uploaded samples in different container and profile of that scene:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fzJYb ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LtE3ju ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jrDF5j ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mYy3WO ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nD7-MH ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1on9KfI ... sp=sharing,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xJkiL0 ... sp=sharing
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
DVDFAB can't remux DV with Atmos and it's remuxing into a mp4 container which is a bit buggy on the x700/x800m2.HarperVision wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:35 pmWhat is the fastest method?
So what exactly is muxing doing? If I rip my movie using DVDFab I can play it in that format already, so why mux it?
How do I know what track to keep after dragging and dropping the largest file (or playlist)? Which and why am I choosing it?
This is what I’m talking about. Every answer I see on these corresponding threads are always so short and abbreviated, assuming the reader just knows everything involved already. It seems nobody ever makes a post with step by step instructions with clear and concise answers as to why and what you’re doing. That’s how I learn anyway.
Either way, thanks a ton for helping me get there!
This is why you need to use tsMuxer which (just like DVDFAB) makes the file playable in DV (TS or M2TS container). tsMuxer also supports Atmos (or any lossless audio).
The tracks you keep are:
1- the 1st HEVC stream (HDR10 base layer)
2- the 2nd HEVC stream (DV layer)
3- any audio you want (you can add external audio)
4- any subtitles you want.(you can add external subs)
Sorry for my English.
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Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Sweet, so incredibly awesome, thanks! Good thing is, that’s exactly how I did it but of course when I tried it in Infuse on AppleTV it didn’t show DV, so I moved on and eventually used DVDFAB’s .mp4, but lost Atmos.RESET_9999 wrote:DVDFAB can't remux DV with Atmos and it's remuxing into a mp4 container which is a bit buggy on the x700/x800m2.HarperVision wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:35 pmWhat is the fastest method?
So what exactly is muxing doing? If I rip my movie using DVDFab I can play it in that format already, so why mux it?
How do I know what track to keep after dragging and dropping the largest file (or playlist)? Which and why am I choosing it?
This is what I’m talking about. Every answer I see on these corresponding threads are always so short and abbreviated, assuming the reader just knows everything involved already. It seems nobody ever makes a post with step by step instructions with clear and concise answers as to why and what you’re doing. That’s how I learn anyway.
Either way, thanks a ton for helping me get there!
This is why you need to use tsMuxer which (just like DVDFAB) makes the file playable in DV (TS or M2TS container). tsMuxer also supports Atmos (or any lossless audio).
The tracks you keep are:
1- the 1st HEVC stream (HDR10 base layer)
2- the 2nd HEVC stream (DV layer)
3- any audio you want (you can add external audio)
4- any subtitles you want.(you can add external subs)
Navigating and lack of a polished GUI with cover/poster art on the X800M2 kinda sucks though. Is there no solution to get LLDV DV, ATMOS and bit perfect quality with a nice GUI poster wall?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
On S922X datasheet:mattmarsden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:54 pmI've tried with Kodi final build and it plays OK but a bit stuttery and often doesn't work after seeking. Plex doesn't seem to work at all with them for me. Interesting about the 2 hardware decoders - where did you see that?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Ugoos AM6 plus with Kodi 19 DV build, mux to mkv.HarperVision wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:38 amSweet, so incredibly awesome, thanks! Good thing is, that’s exactly how I did it but of course when I tried it in Infuse on AppleTV it didn’t show DV, so I moved on and eventually used DVDFAB’s .mp4, but lost Atmos.RESET_9999 wrote:DVDFAB can't remux DV with Atmos and it's remuxing into a mp4 container which is a bit buggy on the x700/x800m2.HarperVision wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:35 pmWhat is the fastest method?
So what exactly is muxing doing? If I rip my movie using DVDFab I can play it in that format already, so why mux it?
How do I know what track to keep after dragging and dropping the largest file (or playlist)? Which and why am I choosing it?
This is what I’m talking about. Every answer I see on these corresponding threads are always so short and abbreviated, assuming the reader just knows everything involved already. It seems nobody ever makes a post with step by step instructions with clear and concise answers as to why and what you’re doing. That’s how I learn anyway.
Either way, thanks a ton for helping me get there!
This is why you need to use tsMuxer which (just like DVDFAB) makes the file playable in DV (TS or M2TS container). tsMuxer also supports Atmos (or any lossless audio).
The tracks you keep are:
1- the 1st HEVC stream (HDR10 base layer)
2- the 2nd HEVC stream (DV layer)
3- any audio you want (you can add external audio)
4- any subtitles you want.(you can add external subs)
Navigating and lack of a polished GUI with cover/poster art on the X800M2 kinda sucks though. Is there no solution to get LLDV DV, ATMOS and bit perfect quality with a nice GUI poster wall?
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mattmarsden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:38 pmUgoos AM6 plus with Kodi 19 DV build, mux to mkv. LLDV can be enabled with all content.HarperVision wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:38 amSweet, so incredibly awesome, thanks! Good thing is, that’s exactly how I did it but of course when I tried it in Infuse on AppleTV it didn’t show DV, so I moved on and eventually used DVDFAB’s .mp4, but lost Atmos.RESET_9999 wrote:
DVDFAB can't remux DV with Atmos and it's remuxing into a mp4 container which is a bit buggy on the x700/x800m2.
This is why you need to use tsMuxer which (just like DVDFAB) makes the file playable in DV (TS or M2TS container). tsMuxer also supports Atmos (or any lossless audio).
The tracks you keep are:
1- the 1st HEVC stream (HDR10 base layer)
2- the 2nd HEVC stream (DV layer)
3- any audio you want (you can add external audio)
4- any subtitles you want.(you can add external subs)
Navigating and lack of a polished GUI with cover/poster art on the X800M2 kinda sucks though. Is there no solution to get LLDV DV, ATMOS and bit perfect quality with a nice GUI poster wall?
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Out of interest what firmware version are you running on the Ugoos?NiCE77 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:22 amOn S922X datasheet:mattmarsden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:54 pmI've tried with Kodi final build and it plays OK but a bit stuttery and often doesn't work after seeking. Plex doesn't seem to work at all with them for me. Interesting about the 2 hardware decoders - where did you see that?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Dune HD Pro Vision 4K Solo vs Chinoppo - Dolby Vision FEL Test file
I don't know if the Dune processes the FEL layer correctly or not, but the file plays smoothly. The TV displays the Dolby Vision logo and it's a sharper image (Less noise).
I don't know if the Dune processes the FEL layer correctly or not, but the file plays smoothly. The TV displays the Dolby Vision logo and it's a sharper image (Less noise).
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Its not processing the FEL and the Chinoppo won’t do DV on those test files - has to be a dual layer m2ts or iso.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
This demo comes from this FullBD FEL Test: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=938b847d ... NKSMP1Pl-Qmattmarsden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:31 pmIts not processing the FEL and the Chinoppo won’t do DV on those test files - has to be a dual layer m2ts or iso.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
mmm, I guess you didn't read my post about the Dune FEL ISO playback comparisons @manix and I did.
The Dune does not support FEL at all and likely never will. yes, it can play the file, but it's using only the RPU metadata.
what? the test file is dual-layer DV mp4 which the oppo support.mattmarsden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:31 pmthe Chinoppo won’t do DV on those test files - has to be a dual layer m2ts or iso.
Sorry for my English.
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