Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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lexyz
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:20 pm
no BDMV support via USB
single BDMV inside in AVCHD folder on usb works
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DaMacFunkin
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deadchip12 wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:33 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:20 pm
morbius wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:14 pm
if the X700/X800(M2) played BDMV from USB that would be useful for me. I came across one positive reference to that via a search, but I guess there are some owners on this forum who may be able to confirm.
DV is supported only in TS / M2TS / MP4 and bluray disc on the x700...
no BDMV support via USB
I notice that some films are divided into multiple m2ts files. What should we do in that case? What's the good way to identify which m2ts files are part of the film? And then we just drag all those files into tsmuxer and click m2ts muxing?
Identify the correct mpls file, either on the interweb or by opening the disk with makemkv.
Drag that mpls file into tsmuxer, job done.
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morbius wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:24 pm
thanks for clarifying. And it looks like I'll be stuck with selecting a forced/default sub track manually? So many films have these. In any event, it will be useful for me to have a DV-capable disc player to give me a reference for playback from other sources.
Get the Oppo clone and rip to iso or BDMV.
Subtitles will work as if you was playing the disk.
You can also use external subs with the .forced flag if you want to add subtitles to a title.
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My X700 just arrived. I'm connected to my network files via the Kodi UPnP shared library service. All my mkv's show, but my test .ts/.m2ts file does not. Any ideas?

Tried the AVCHD\BDMV folder approach on USB, did not work.
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if i read the last pages, it seems to be that mkv lost the battle against dolby vision. am i right? there is no right way to play DV-files correctly with mkv?
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kazuma wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
if i read the last pages, it seems to be that mkv lost the battle against dolby vision. am i right? there is no right way to play DV-files correctly with mkv?
the Firestick TV does it right but no FEL / lossless audio support.
Sorry for my English.
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lexyz wrote:Driveless chinese oppo clone named M9702 or similar could be more interesting compared to X800M2
1Gbps LAN
BDMV folders over network with working Blu-ray menu
HDR10/DV/HDR10+
It's already known that the oppos (plus cambridge uhd) and its clone deliver picture perfect dolby vision.
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kazuma wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
if i read the last pages, it seems to be that mkv lost the battle against dolby vision. am i right? there is no right way to play DV-files correctly with mkv?
mkv didn't lose the battle with DV, quite the opposite actually. It's certainly no fault of the container that no devices can currently play them to their full potential. The standard has been established, and it's now just up to the hardware/software to catch up.
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morbius wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:29 pm
My X700 just arrived. I'm connected to my network files via the Kodi UPnP shared library service. All my mkv's show, but my test .ts/.m2ts file does not. Any ideas?

Tried the AVCHD\BDMV folder approach on USB, did not work.
What's the benefit of playing bdmv folder instead of the m2ts file?
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Someone mentioned here that with the x700, some long movies played via usb method can't be fast forwarded. Does it mean if we accidentally exit the movie midway, we have to watch again from the beginning? That sounds rough.
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:56 pm
kazuma wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
if i read the last pages, it seems to be that mkv lost the battle against dolby vision. am i right? there is no right way to play DV-files correctly with mkv?
the Firestick TV does it right but no FEL / lossless audio support.
Can you please link or tell me how to do that ? New to all this. Thanks
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Post by kuka7 »

Hello everyone, sorry to bother you but I need your help. I spent the last weeks reading pages on pages, but I still have some doubts
This in my situation:

Room1: Oled LG E8
Room2: Shield Pro, Sony X800M2, HDFury Vertex2, Denon AVR, Epson TW9400

Right now I'm using MakeMKV to rip BD with Dolby Vision and without, store on nas, and watch them with Plex on LG E8 and Plex on Shield.
Tomorrow i'll receive the Sony X800M2 and from what I red, it looks like I can have better quality using this than using the Shield.

a- Am I correct or because my vpr in not DV and use the LLDV hack, nothing will change for me?

Talking about rips:

b- is there an easy way to rip BD with DV and play them with Oled LG E8 internal player? (Plex app on LG doesn't support mkv with DV)
c- when I'll use the drag and drop mpls tsmuxer method for ripping BD and play them on Sony X800M2, the final m2ts file, need to have only 1 video track or 2 is the right way?

Thanks in advance, and sorry for my english. I can speak it, but writing is a whole other story.
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deadchip12 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:36 am

What's the benefit of playing bdmv folder instead of the m2ts file?
chapter support, forced flags for subs...
but even if I had the oppo i would still remux my file to TS/M2TS. I don't really care about chapters and forced subs are rare unless you don't watch the movies in English. Most of the time, forced English subs are hardcoded.
deadchip12 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:42 am
Does it mean if we accidentally exit the movie midway, we have to watch again from the beginning? That sounds rough.
yep, it happened to me in one of the Lord of the rings.
Sorry for my English.
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Forced subs are actually quite common in my experience. Just for starters, quite a few of the Marvel films. Sometimes they feature when you may not expect, like the scene early in Spiderman Homecoming where there are just two lines of Italian dialogue in the sandwich shop, but the subs are in a track. I could list loads of mainstream films that do not hardcode the forced subs.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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morbius wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:52 pm
Forced subs are actually quite common in my experience. Just for starters, quite a few of the Marvel films. Sometimes they feature when you may not expect, like the scene early in Spiderman Homecoming where there are just two lines of Italian dialogue in the sandwich shop, but the subs are in a track. I could list loads of mainstream films that do not hardcode the forced subs.
so if I understand correctly, with the x700 playing the m2ts file via usb, the subs for those Italian lines will not appear because they are not hardcoded? Hmm that could be troublesome... I remember in The Inglorious Bastards for example, there are lot of hardcoded subs for non-English lines. Not sure if those are hardcoded or not.

Will using external subs help?
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