Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[DaMacFunkin]

But TV internal players aren't the best for playback, they lack chapters, may lack capacity for some audios (LG CX for example lacks DTS support).. lacks PGS support.. is it really worth it?

Your right, it probably isn’t worth the hassle, I have gone back to ripping FEL titles as Movie only ISO and watching on the Chinoppo, I upgraded my server with an extra 24tb of the Christmas break so I’ve got space to play with for a while.
Do love the convenience of Kodi / Plex/ HT4 though

Have you tried the method outlined here for integrating Emby with your chinoppo:

https://www.avpasion.com/foro/t/xnoppo- ... 9205.2779/

Seems promising and could be the best of both worlds if you can get it work.

Hi, I followed that thread last year just as they was testing and teasing with it, (that is the site I bought the unit through) but most users have been disappointed with it so I never gave it a go, the way I understand it is you browse the library on an external device and then ‘fling’ it to the Chinoppo which is neither here nor there to me.
It’s no biggy I was hoping for the holy grail of total integration and that Yuescope or somebody else had found a way to wrap Dual Stream into a format devices could decode fully.
Off topic: latest releases of DVD fab claim to mixing TrueHD into mp4 AND achieving playback via e-arc.
I don’t have an AVR capable of e-arc or the money for a Diva, anybody been able to try this? Is this where Youscope and others that where originally working on this project disappeared too, working for DVDfab?

[shawnc22]

Hi, I followed that thread last year just as they was testing and teasing with it, (that is the site I bought the unit through) but most users have been disappointed with it so I never gave it a go, the way I understand it is you browse the library on an external device and then ‘fling’ it to the Chinoppo which is neither here nor there to me.
It’s no biggy I was hoping for the holy grail of total integration and that Yuescope or somebody else had found a way to wrap Dual Stream into a format devices could decode fully.
Off topic: latest releases of DVD fab claim to mixing TrueHD into mp4 AND achieving playback via e-arc.
I don’t have an AVR capable of e-arc or the money for a Diva, anybody been able to try this? Is this where Youscope and others that where originally working on this project disappeared too, working for DVDfab?

Yeah that's my impression of how it worked as well. I saw the demonstration video and thought it looked promising, but my Spanish is elementary at best so I didn't read too much into the thread on people's actual experiences.

As for TrueHD and mp4, even if DVDFab is able do it, you're still missing a device that can properly decode both DL DV and TrueHD. Even though the non-X generation LG OLEDS can play DL DV, its internal player cannot decode TrueHD so having eARC is moot there. Maybe the Oppo can do it, but I don't know how much better this is than just playing the full folder backups.

[elmox]

Goodmorning everyone. I have been following the Thread for some time and I am using the GAMMA version of yusesope's tool with satisfaction.
I thank yusesope for his commitment and his ideas.
In this regard, I quote an old post of his:

You just gave me an idea.
Instead of using a simple USB device, why not build a SMART USB device!



The new Raspberry pi 4 (like the old models A, A+ and Pi Zero) implements a USB (Type-C) On-The-Go (OTG. Official info HERE). It would thus be possible to connect devices that do not have the ability to use network protocols directly to a NAS/Server (Samba, NFS, etc...).
Another advantage could be that you don't have to wait two weeks before data transfer it's over (mechanical Hard Disk, slow USB 3.0 Transfer, etc...).
Some devices also do not allow playback of certain video/audio formats over DLNA; others may present bugs.

More information HERE and HERE (post number 10 is enlightening) in case anyone's interested.

I wish you all a good day!

A year later, someone else came up with the same idea (but using a PlayStaion 3 instead of a BD player).
The procedure involves sharing files via the iSCSI protocol (available on most NAS, Linux PC, Windows Server PC, etc ...)

https://matt.olan.me/making-a-piscsi-usb-drive-part-1/
https://matt.olan.me/making-a-piscsi-usb-drive-part-2/

I haven't tried it (I don't own a Raspberry Pi 4) but if it works it would be great for Sony X700 owners.

[RESET_9999]

I have a few more questions:
-what is the usb port on the x700? Is it usb 3.0? For high bitrate movies, is there any problem (e.g. stuttering, freezing) playing the dolby vision m2ts file straight from the external hdd connected to the x700? Gemini Man in 4k 60fps dolby vision is an example. That file stutters like hell on my c9, but probably that's because the c9's chip is not powerful enough, not because of the usb speed.
-why do you need the Shield when you have a powerful pc and the x700 that can play everything I wonder?

USB 2.0 only but it's more than enough speed..... I watched tons of DV movie on the x700 and never experienced any problem. Gemini Man 60fps included. Some longer movies cannot be Fast Forward but not a big issue to me.

I bought a Shield on day 1 because I wanted Atmos (lossy) support on Netflix, Disney. Plus back then, I had no idea what fel or mel was. Also, I really like Movies Anywhere app (close quality to bluray) and hate Apple.
Turns out, the lack of frame-rate-match annoys me enough to still use my x700 for Netflix lol . tried the beta app but it caused occasional stutter. So I only use my shield for MA... PC can't play DV.

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Is the red tint and FEL support such a big problem? Is it a problem for general watching? I'm pretty content and happy with my Shield, otherwise.

Well if you don't really care about color accuracy and having the best image possible, then no it's not a big issue.
IMO, I don't spend thousands of dollars on equipments and calibration just to have a device that ruins it all.

I see, is it guaranteed though that the Shield will never support FEL, fix the red tint issue and start supporting all DV profiles?

FEL support on the Shield is very unlikely and probably impossible because of hardware limitations.

[Billycar11]

USB 2.0 only but it's more than enough speed..... I watched tons of DV movie on the x700 and never experienced any problem. Gemini Man 60fps included. Some longer movies cannot be Fast Forward but not a big issue to me.

I bought a Shield on day 1 because I wanted Atmos (lossy) support on Netflix, Disney. Plus back then, I had no idea what fel or mel was. Also, I really like Movies Anywhere app (close quality to bluray) and hate Apple.
Turns out, the lack of frame-rate-match annoys me enough to still use my x700 for Netflix lol . tried the beta app but it caused occasional stutter. So I only use my shield for MA... PC can't play DV.

yes most 4K movies top out at 100mbps some go to 140mbps usb 2.0 is 480mbps

[Asfi51]

Hi,

players x700 and x800 supports 24p hdmi output for Dolby Vision files ?

[RESET_9999]

Hi,

players x700 and x800 supports 24p hdmi output for Dolby Vision files ?

yes the x700 supports 23.976 and 24 hz..
it doesn't support 25hz.

[DaMacFunkin]

Hi, I followed that thread last year just as they was testing and teasing with it, (that is the site I bought the unit through) but most users have been disappointed with it so I never gave it a go, the way I understand it is you browse the library on an external device and then ‘fling’ it to the Chinoppo which is neither here nor there to me.
It’s no biggy I was hoping for the holy grail of total integration and that Yuescope or somebody else had found a way to wrap Dual Stream into a format devices could decode fully.
Off topic: latest releases of DVD fab claim to mixing TrueHD into mp4 AND achieving playback via e-arc.
I don’t have an AVR capable of e-arc or the money for a Diva, anybody been able to try this? Is this where Youscope and others that where originally working on this project disappeared too, working for DVDfab?

Yeah that's my impression of how it worked as well. I saw the demonstration video and thought it looked promising, but my Spanish is elementary at best so I didn't read too much into the thread on people's actual experiences.

As for TrueHD and mp4, even if DVDFab is able do it, you're still missing a device that can properly decode both DL DV and TrueHD. Even though the non-X generation LG OLEDS can play DL DV, its internal player cannot decode TrueHD so having eARC is moot there. Maybe the Oppo can do it, but I don't know how much better this is than just playing the full folder backups.

Like I said don’t have the equipment to try it and I’m not on the fab forums so I don’t know what devices it’s working on.

[kws53]

My system includes:
1) HTPC - with Plex Client
2) Shield 2019 Pro - with Plex Client
3) X700 - with 16GB USB drive
4) LG CX77 - with Plex Client
5) Denon 2020 AVR

I very much like the look and feel of the Shield System, so that is my preferred method of streaming. With these options available to me and the limitations of the CX, what would you recommend as:
a) the overall best quality video performance from an original ISO file? Using what piece of hardware? (Which Yuseope method?)
b) the best "version" of video for use on the Shield? (FEL to MEL? Which Yuseope method?)
c) TV-Led vs Shield LLTV (how does one invoke this option on the Shield or on the LG?)

[kazuma]

sow dolby vision won from mkv? it's failed?

[shawnc22]

My system includes:
1) HTPC - with Plex Client
2) Shield 2019 Pro - with Plex Client
3) X700 - with 16GB USB drive
4) LG CX77 - with Plex Client
5) Denon 2020 AVR

I very much like the look and feel of the Shield System, so that is my preferred method of streaming. With these options available to me and the limitations of the CX, what would you recommend as:
a) the overall best quality video performance from an original ISO file? Using what piece of hardware? (Which Yuseope method?)
b) the best "version" of video for use on the Shield? (FEL to MEL? Which Yuseope method?)
c) TV-Led vs Shield LLTV (how does one invoke this option on the Shield or on the LG?)

a) Use the x700. Extract out the BL & EL from the main video of the iso and mux with latest nightly of tsmuxer. No yusecope's tool needed.
b) Rip with makemkv 1.15.4 and done, no conversions needed. FEL will play, but EL is ignored.
c) You cannot control this unless you have an HDFury or another EDID spoofer. Your playback chain will always result in TV-Led DV.

[kws53]

a) Use the x700. Extract out the BL & EL from the main video of the iso and mux with latest nightly of tsmuxer. No yusecope's tool needed.
b) Rip with makemkv 1.15.4 and done, no conversions needed. FEL will play, but EL is ignored.
c) You cannot control this unless you have an HDFury or another EDID spoofer. Your playback chain will always result in TV-Led DV.

a) No problem, thanks
b) Is this equivalent to GAMMA? I don't use MakeMKV.

It will be interesting to see differences in the output between a) and b).

[kws53]

a) Use the x700. Extract out the BL & EL from the main video of the iso and mux with latest nightly of tsmuxer. No yusecope's tool needed.
b) Rip with makemkv 1.15.4 and done, no conversions needed. FEL will play, but EL is ignored.
c) You cannot control this unless you have an HDFury or another EDID spoofer. Your playback chain will always result in TV-Led DV.

a) No problem, thanks
b) Is this equivalent to GAMMA? I don't use MakeMKV. If so, this is what I currently do for the Shield.

It will be interesting to see differences in the output between a) and b).

[whatsmyname]

Ah yeah I saw your signature

What is you audio setup? Dolby atmos? Is the x700 able to output dolby atmos to the receiver while playing m2ts dolby vision files?

yep, the x700 can output any lossless audio format + Dolby Vision FEL. Subtitles also work. Cinavia free as well

Do you know if someone has already done a comparison between the BluRay and a m2ts remux to make sure the picture is actually identical (for FEL content)?