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lexyz
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by lexyz » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:49 am
Total Recall is extreme example.
EL is about 40% of bitrate in this scene. Very rare case
Demo-level stuff
Jokes aside it's a defect and it's a mistery how such grade passed quality control.
Seems like all film grain remains in FEL
Do you understand now why StudioCanal disks called "blocky-vision" on blu-ray.com?

Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
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RESET_9999
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by RESET_9999 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:36 pm
lexyz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:49 am
Jokes aside it's a defect and it's a mistery how such grade passed quality control.
Seems like all film grain remains in FEL
Do you understand now why StudioCanal disks called "blocky-vision" on blu-ray.com?
yep, truly incredible bad encoding.
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Manixx2020beyound
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by Manixx2020beyound » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:30 pm
RESET_9999 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:36 pm
lexyz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:49 am
Jokes aside it's a defect and it's a mistery how such grade passed quality control.
Seems like all film grain remains in FEL
Do you understand now why StudioCanal disks called "blocky-vision" on blu-ray.com?
yep, truly incredible bad encoding.
Just wondering how much more off an impact is the fel in rgb dv 8bit doblyvision.
I think the super red color change has something to do with the bt2020 vs p3 encoding.
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Tomas
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by Tomas » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:14 pm
Greetings to you all. I would like to ask what it looks like now playing with Dolby Vision movies in mkv in Zidoo z9x. Does FEL and MEL play it? I have a Shield for 2019 and I'm considering buying a Zidoo z9x if it pays off. SHIELD plays just fine FEL and MEL. I read that the Zidoo z9x has better colors. Thank you for your help.
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JavierAlbadalejo
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by JavierAlbadalejo » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:42 pm
So, you guys saying that DV on MKV on Plex/Shield is faulty.. will it ever be fixed in a possible update no matter how long it takes, or are we doomed?
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shawnc22
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by shawnc22 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:04 pm
JavierAlbadalejo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:42 pm
So, you guys saying that DV on MKV on Plex/Shield is faulty.. will it ever be fixed in a possible update no matter how long it takes, or are we doomed?
As far as I know, FEL titles will never be played to their full capacity on the Shield, because it's simply a hardware limitation. MEL titles on the other hand and the color issues that exist with them, nvidia is still working on it, but since DV rips from disks are not really officially supported, only time will tell if and when that gets sorted out.
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JavierAlbadalejo
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by JavierAlbadalejo » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:11 pm
I do have a Sony UHD BD player that has Dolby Vision, particularly the 700 something, but with the new TV I legit do not have the space for it, so I can not hook it up in any form.
But even if it was possible, I do prefer the much easier, faster, click and play part of streaming instead of putting disc (remember in the Sony Blu rays, you have to manually switch on and off DV everytime you play a DV disc!)..
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Ride_UL
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by Ride_UL » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:27 pm
My TV can play MP4, TS, M2TS DolbyVision files via Default player and MKV DolbyVision remuxes via Modified Kodi (32-bit version)\
Any idea which format is best for accurate color and quality?
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shawnc22
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by shawnc22 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:28 pm
JavierAlbadalejo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:11 pm
I do have a Sony UHD BD player that has Dolby Vision, particularly the 700 something, but with the new TV I legit do not have the space for it, so I can not hook it up in any form.
But even if it was possible, I do prefer the much easier, faster, click and play part of streaming instead of putting disc (remember in the Sony Blu rays, you have to manually switch on and off DV everytime you play a DV disc!)..
Yeah, a similar dilemma that I'm sure a lot of people faces: the ease and convenience of the Shield+Plex, or the picture accuracy of another device.
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quietvoid
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by quietvoid » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:59 pm
Eventually you might be able to get on the fly conversion from profile 7 to profile 8.1, at least with Kodi.
Then all files would be compatible with most devices at playback.
I don't believe streaming devices will ever get full support for profile 7 FEL.
I've already patched my Kodi to fix the DoVi/HDR10+ issue with the Firestick, so it's not that hard.
Just takes someone to do the work, basically just porting an RPU parser to C++.
Too bad yusesope hasn't shared their code, otherwise we'd have it already.
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shawnc22
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by shawnc22 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:38 am
quietvoid wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:59 pm
I don't believe streaming devices will ever get full support for profile 7 FEL.
Unfortunately true. I don't see any streaming devices putting in the extra work to be able to process FEL simply because no such content exists from streaming services. Besides, even if they wanted to, Dolby may not grant them the necessary licenses for fear of piracy. Best hope may be a smart blu-ray player that can run Plex/Kodi. The xbox series x could've been the ideal device, but sadly it has a pretty gimped bluray player with regards to DV.
quietvoid wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:59 pm
I've already patched my Kodi to fix the DoVi/HDR10+ issue with the Firestick, so it's not that hard.
Just takes someone to do the work, basically just porting an RPU parser to C++.
Too bad yusesope hasn't shared their code, otherwise we'd have it already.
What was the issue that needed patching?
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quietvoid
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by quietvoid » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:49 am
shawnc22 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:38 am
What was the issue that needed patching?
The Firestick Dolby Vision decoder panics and renders a black screen when it encounters a file that contains both Dolby Vision and HDR10+ metadata.
The source of the --skip-hdr10plus switch
I basically implemented the same behavior on the fly before the data gets sent to the decoder.
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deadchip12
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by deadchip12 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:35 am
So oled tvs' internal media player and the oppo 203 are still the best ways to watch these DV remuxes?
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JavierAlbadalejo
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by JavierAlbadalejo » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:52 am
deadchip12 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:35 am
So oled tvs' internal media player and the oppo 203 are still the best ways to watch these DV remuxes?
But TV internal players aren't the best for playback, they lack chapters, may lack capacity for some audios (LG CX for example lacks DTS support).. lacks PGS support.. is it really worth it?