Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4111 Post by shawnc22 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:33 pm

chros wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:15 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:02 pm
yeah the mp4muxer is a very slow process
But what the heck does it do for +20 minutes?! :D
It can very well be saving everything into memory and then dumping it all onto disk once it's finished processing. A progress counter definitely would've been nice, though.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4112 Post by Manixx2020beyound » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:56 pm

lexyz wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:33 pm
Manixx2020beyound wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:18 pm
@ lexyz
What’s the time duration on the shuttle scene?
I would like to try a fel comparison in rgb8 & LLDV for total recall using the x700.
Have you had the opportunity to make a comparison yet? :)
I did pretty hard to compare the scenes doe it’s mostly red.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4113 Post by Mouth_of_Sauron » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:47 am

I checked out this thread early on (in the first 10 or so pages) and had success in remuxing DV to MP4, it's been a while and was wondering if anything had changed (without reading all 275 pages).

1. Is this still the only tool that can do this, and when was the last time it was updated?

2. Is there any way to put chapters in? I've downloaded some DV rips that seem to have chapters, but I don't know how to do this with my own DV rips.

3. Are we still limited to AC3 audio?

4. Are there any free tools available now that will encode as EAC3 7.1 channel when converting from Dolby TrueHD 7.1 or DTS-MA 7.1? Or are we still limited to downmixing to 5.1 channel EAC3 encoding?

Thanks

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4114 Post by Mouth_of_Sauron » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:57 am

shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:55 am
...only the LG OLEDS (mixed report on the current X-generation ones) will be able to play FEL mp4s.

@shawnc22 are you able to elaborate at all, or provide a link to more information, about the compatibility of the LG OLED X-Generation?

I currently have a C8, but am looking at getting a CX. But I'll will think twice if it can't play these.

Thanks

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4115 Post by DaMacFunkin » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:25 am

Mouth_of_Sauron wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:57 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:55 am
...only the LG OLEDS (mixed report on the current X-generation ones) will be able to play FEL mp4s.

@shawnc22 are you able to elaborate at all, or provide a link to more information, about the compatibility of the LG OLED X-Generation?

I currently have a C8, but am looking at getting a CX. But I'll will think twice if it can't play these.

Thanks
Hi, I wouldn’t NOT get a CX just because it may not play dual layer mp4 files.
It has a much better peak processing in HDR content compared to the C8.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4116 Post by agneva » Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:08 pm

With the new Firmware CX9 plays DV DL mp4. Tested with James Ryan.
I think it's a little dark.

edit:
it is the same as when I create a DV SL from Private Ryan -> it plays only BL+RPU, not the EL. Picture is falsified :x
I think that the TV is not able to decode 2x HEVC at the same time.


So the purchase of the UBK90 was not in vain :D

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4117 Post by DaMacFunkin » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:19 pm

agneva wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:08 pm
With the new Firmware CX9 plays DV DL mp4. Tested with James Ryan.
I think it's a little dark.

edit:
it is the same as when I create a DV SL from Private Ryan -> it plays only BL+RPU, not the EL. Picture is falsified :x
I think that the TV is not able to decode 2x HEVC at the same time.


So the purchase of the UBK90 was not in vain :D
Of course it can physically play dual hevc streams. Are you sure you have the same picture setting for Dolby vision over media player as you do for HDMI input?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4118 Post by agneva » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:41 pm

100% Sure.

In (rare) films with FEL, such as Private Ryan, omitting the EL leads to errors. In this case, the brightness pumps into bright scenes and dark scenes are far too dark. Otherwise I might not have noticed.

where do you get the information from that it can play 2x hevc?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4119 Post by Mouth_of_Sauron » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:22 pm

agneva wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:41 pm
100% Sure.

In (rare) films with FEL, such as Private Ryan, omitting the EL leads to errors. In this case, the brightness pumps into bright scenes and dark scenes are far too dark. Otherwise I might not have noticed.

where do you get the information from that it can play 2x hevc?
But wouldn't leaving out the EL just make it play exactly as it would on any TV/player that doesn't support DV? So does that mean in rare cases like Private Ryan even the original UHD Blu-Ray will only play properly on DV capable equipment? That sort of thing shouldn't happen should it?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4120 Post by agneva » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:30 pm

The HDR10 plays without Errors.

If you play the EL alone (Ryan) on MPC you see the brightness flashing.

Don't know how the RPU can make the brightness pumping playing the DV without EL.

Buy private Ryan and test yourself! If U don't believe me.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4121 Post by Mouth_of_Sauron » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:46 pm

agneva wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:08 pm
With the new Firmware CX9 plays DV DL mp4. Tested with James Ryan.
I think it's a little dark.

edit:
it is the same as when I create a DV SL from Private Ryan -> it plays only BL+RPU, not the EL. Picture is falsified :x
I think that the TV is not able to decode 2x HEVC at the same time.


So the purchase of the UBK90 was not in vain :D
CX9? Do you mean the LG OLED CX or the LG OLED C9?

Can the UBK90 install apps like Emby or Plex to play DV mp4s over a network?

Wouldn't you be able to test if the CX can decode 2x HEVC at the same time by muxing a DV mp4 with the main HEVC from one film and the EL from a different film? I did this ages ago just to see what would happen, and the colours were all crazy when played on my C8. If you did this and it played with the crazy colours on both the UBK90 and the CX it would indicate the CX is decoding the EL. If it played crazy colours on the UBK90, but looked normal on the CX it would indicate the the CX is only playing the main stream.

Does that make sense, or is my thinking off?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4122 Post by Mouth_of_Sauron » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:58 pm

agneva wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:30 pm
The HDR10 plays without Errors.

If you play the EL alone (Ryan) on MPC you see the brightness flashing.

Don't know how the RPU can make the brightness pumping playing the DV without EL.

Buy private Ryan and test yourself! If U don't believe me.
It's not that I don't believe you, and I don't have a CX or UBK90 to test any way. I was just wondering if something else could be causing it other than the TV not decoding the EL.

I haven't looked at this stuff in a while, so I don't know what the RPU is or does - I'd never heard of it before reading your post. Does every DV Blu-Ray have an RPU?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4123 Post by shawnc22 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:05 pm

Mouth_of_Sauron wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:57 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:55 am
...only the LG OLEDS (mixed report on the current X-generation ones) will be able to play FEL mp4s.

@shawnc22 are you able to elaborate at all, or provide a link to more information, about the compatibility of the LG OLED X-Generation?

I currently have a C8, but am looking at getting a CX. But I'll will think twice if it can't play these.

Thanks
It's mostly just reports from people on this forum who have said the CX hasnt been able to play DTDL mp4s, but that supposedly changed with the latest firmware. You'd have to ask people here who have that TV for confirmation.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4124 Post by magnetoeric » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:41 am

agneva wrote:With the new Firmware CX9 plays DV DL mp4. Tested with James Ryan.
I think it's a little dark.

edit:
it is the same as when I create a DV SL from Private Ryan -> it plays only BL+RPU, not the EL. Picture is falsified :x
I think that the TV is not able to decode 2x HEVC at the same time.


So the purchase of the UBK90 was not in vain :D
Does UBK90 also support DTDL and lossless audio in m2ts?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#4125 Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:02 am

DaMacFunkin wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:25 am
It has a much better peak processing in HDR content compared to the C8.
Any proof on this? Because measurements show the CX have lower peak brightness in hdr compared to previous oled generations.

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