Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[aboulfad]

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The conversion process used by makemkv 1.15.3+ is in itself a lossless conversion. The issue is that no current devices can play them (FEL titles) in their full capacity. The Oppo and its clones (iso/ts remux) or an x700 (ts remux) then are your only options for 1:1 playback.

Out of curiosety, I ripped Aquaman and created an mkv with 1.15.4 (single track double layer?, MEL) and tried Aquaman on my "virgin" 203 (via USB), it came up as HDR10. Not sure if the Oppo requires a JB to play DV mkv or if that's supported at all.

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ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 23 min
Bit rate                                 : 54.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.276
Stream size                              : 54.9 GiB (87%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1506 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 459 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

[glc650]

I'm planning to get x700. Do you know whether it can play DV with FEL in m2ts container? I have an old bdp s6700 which can play m2ts remuxes fine (although only 1080p).

It can but with a Fast Ethernet port and only 2.4 WiFI I think the X800M2 (has 5ghz WiFi) is a better option. I just got the X800M2 and my AP usually shows me connected at 300mbps which is 150+mbps in reality in my environment and after 6+ DV movies I've yet to see an issue. Also, keep in mind that the X700/800M2 uses DLNA instead of SMB/NFS.

[glc650]

Out of curiosety, I ripped Aquaman and created an mkv with 1.15.4 (single track double layer?, MEL) and tried Aquaman on my "virgin" 203 (via USB), it came up as HDR10. Not sure if the Oppo requires a JB to play DV mkv or if that's supported at all.

m2ts or BDMV folder for DV. The Oppo will most likely never support DV in MKV since that would require a firmware update and with Oppo being out of the BR industry...

[aboulfad]

m2ts or BDMV folder for DV. The Oppo will most likely never support DV in MKV since that would require a firmware update and with Oppo being out of the BR industry...

Thx, I'll try that next: Movie name -> BDMV folder ? too bad Oppo's media browser is so outdated.

[glc650]

m2ts or BDMV folder for DV. The Oppo will most likely never support DV in MKV since that would require a firmware update and with Oppo being out of the BR industry...

Thx, I'll try that next: Movie name -> BDMV folder ? too bad Oppo's media browser is so outdated.

movie name > AVCHD > BDMV
https://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203 ... hd-backups

[aboulfad]

movie name > AVCHD > BDMV
https://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203 ... hd-backups

Thx for the link, for USB no AVCHD was required and I needed the other folders (cert) for the movie to play in its full dvhe.07.06 glory its an ok temporary solution as my DV collection is small.

[robert.gregory]

Here is what I'm doing today to convert from FEL to MEL: (using a 4k disc that is mastered as FEL) (e.g. Sum of All Fears)

1. Using MakeMKV 1.15.4, creating an MKV file with main movie and AC3 (e.g. english 5.1) audio of my choosing. "Sum of All Fears.MKV"
2. Making a backup of the same disc. After backup is done, find the .m2ts file representing the main movie. (00067.m2ts)
3. ffmpeg -i path\to\the\00067.m2ts -ss 0 -t 120 -map 0:0 -c copy path\to\00067.m2ts.BL.hevc
4. ffmpeg -i path\to\the\00067.m2ts -ss 0 -t 120 -map 0:1 -c copy path\to\00067.m2ts.EL.hevc
5. Create my BL_EL_RPU.hevc file by running MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_MEL.bat, specify path\to\00067.m2ts.BL.hevc as my base profile and path\to\00067.m2ts.EL.hevc as my enhanced profile.
6. Open TsMuxeR, add BL_EL_RPU.hevc as my first file, and add "Sum of All Fears.MKV" as my second file. I then create my .ts file (e.g. BL_EL_RPU.ts), delete the old "Sum of All Fears.MKV" file, and rename the BL_EL_RPU.ts file to "Sum of All Fears.MKV"
7. That's it.

I copy the new "Sum of All Fears.MKV" to my plex server, open the Amazon Firestick 4k on my Sony Bravia A8H tv, and watch it. I not only see the movie but have DV picture control options available. I could not see the movie before (just a blank screen) this FEL to MEL conversion.

[Will2106]

Question regarding the Sony X700 and profile 7 playback from file.

What version of tsmuxer nigthly do you use at present?

is it normal for mediainfo to indicate a -4200ms delay on all tracks (tsmuxer 20/09/2020)?

[Will2106]

To clarify last post, with eac3to it indicates the delay in all tracks, with previous versions of tsmuxer it was not seen

[Manixx2020beyound]

you need to use p7 with FEL in order to see differences - because the "problem" occurs when the EL is merged with the BL, and in LLDV this is done by the player/source and it won't be as accurate as tv-led
p5 does not have EL

Ok,
but the Shield is not capable of displaying p7 properly (or any other format than p5), so that comparison between the Shield and the x700 cannot be done (well it wouldn't mean anything).
Also, are you saying that MEL would look identical in player-led and tv-led ?

U would have to do x700 fel LLDV vs x700 fel rgb dv8 to see if that’s true.

tNet doblyvision shield
LLDV vs rgb8 Dolby

Rgb/8bit dv shield

F1155E51-7792-4780-AB20-97020CA58507.jpeg (3.52 MiB) Viewed 19441 times

[afss_br]

I believe I am getting a Python issue while trying to run any of the V0.0.4 Beta files. Please, I truly appreciate any feedback anybody may have:

D:\Dolby_Vision\v0.0.4_BETA>python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -demux -fel_to_mel


Please, drag and drop here the Single Track Dual Layer HEVC file and press ENTER:
D:\TestFileDV.mkv

You did not specify an output.
The BL.hevc file and the EL_RPU.hevc file will be created in the program folder.
(D:\Dolby_Vision\v0.0.4_BETA)



Exception in thread Thread-3:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "D:\Dolby_Vision\v0.0.4_BETA\python-3.7.6.amd64\lib\threading.py", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
self.run()
File "src\app.py", line 1033, in run
self.write(nalu,out_file_handler)
File "src\app.py", line 1012, in write
nalu.data.prepend("0x00000001")
AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'prepend'
PROGRESS: 0.1%
PROGRESS: 0.1%

[AndreasT]

I believe I am getting a Python issue while trying to run any of the V0.0.4 Beta files. Please, I truly appreciate any feedback anybody may have:

D:\Dolby_Vision\v0.0.4_BETA>python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -demux -fel_to_mel


Please, drag and drop here the Single Track Dual Layer HEVC file and press ENTER:
D:\TestFileDV.mkv

You did not specify an output.
The BL.hevc file and the EL_RPU.hevc file will be created in the program folder.
(D:\Dolby_Vision\v0.0.4_BETA)



Exception in thread Thread-3:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "D:\Dolby_Vision\v0.0.4_BETA\python-3.7.6.amd64\lib\threading.py", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
self.run()
File "src\app.py", line 1033, in run
self.write(nalu,out_file_handler)
File "src\app.py", line 1012, in write
nalu.data.prepend("0x00000001")
AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'prepend'
PROGRESS: 0.1%
PROGRESS: 0.1%

I believe you have to demux the STDL video track from the mkv into a *.hevc file first using for example tsMuxer (check the video track only and output as demux), and then use that with the bat file.

[AndreasT]

Here is what I'm doing today to convert from FEL to MEL: (using a 4k disc that is mastered as FEL) (e.g. Sum of All Fears)

1. Using MakeMKV 1.15.4, creating an MKV file with main movie and AC3 (e.g. english 5.1) audio of my choosing. "Sum of All Fears.MKV"
2. Making a backup of the same disc. After backup is done, find the .m2ts file representing the main movie. (00067.m2ts)
3. ffmpeg -i path\to\the\00067.m2ts -ss 0 -t 120 -map 0:0 -c copy path\to\00067.m2ts.BL.hevc
4. ffmpeg -i path\to\the\00067.m2ts -ss 0 -t 120 -map 0:1 -c copy path\to\00067.m2ts.EL.hevc
5. Create my BL_EL_RPU.hevc file by running MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_MEL.bat, specify path\to\00067.m2ts.BL.hevc as my base profile and path\to\00067.m2ts.EL.hevc as my enhanced profile.
6. Open TsMuxeR, add BL_EL_RPU.hevc as my first file, and add "Sum of All Fears.MKV" as my second file. I then create my .ts file (e.g. BL_EL_RPU.ts), delete the old "Sum of All Fears.MKV" file, and rename the BL_EL_RPU.ts file to "Sum of All Fears.MKV"
7. That's it.

I copy the new "Sum of All Fears.MKV" to my plex server, open the Amazon Firestick 4k on my Sony Bravia A8H tv, and watch it. I not only see the movie but have DV picture control options available. I could not see the movie before (just a blank screen) this FEL to MEL conversion.

In steps 3 and 4, you do realize that you are just creating 120 seconds long files right? At least that's what I understood from the original post, the commands are to generate sample files to test the process before applying to a whole movie. Or maybe I misunderstood something.

In step 6, my understanding is that BL_EL_RPU.hevc is supposed to be your complete video track, for the whole movie. After adding both this and your original mkv to tsMuxer do you uncheck the video track before creating the .ts file? The last renaming step I don't understand, why do you do this? Regardless the name I assume the player will interpret it as a TS file.

[shawnc22]

Ok,
but the Shield is not capable of displaying p7 properly (or any other format than p5), so that comparison between the Shield and the x700 cannot be done (well it wouldn't mean anything).
Also, are you saying that MEL would look identical in player-led and tv-led ?

U would have to do x700 fel LLDV vs x700 fel rgb dv8 to see if that’s true.

tNet doblyvision shield
LLDV vs rgb8 Dolby
F1155E51-7792-4780-AB20-97020CA58507.jpeg

How're you getting DV to begin with on Tenet? The UHD Disc is HDR10 only.

[Manixx2020beyound]

U would have to do x700 fel LLDV vs x700 fel rgb dv8 to see if that’s true.

tNet doblyvision shield
LLDV vs rgb8 Dolby
F1155E51-7792-4780-AB20-97020CA58507.jpeg

How're you getting DV to begin with on Tenet? The UHD Disc is HDR10 only.

Movies Everywhere streaming platform.
Vudu,appletv4k once u own the disc u have a digital 4K copy as well.