Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[ghostshadow]

Does the Zidoo Z9X plays the new mkv dolby vision files more accurately than the Shield 2019 regarding colors? I keep reading about Shield and the problems with DV so i was thinking to try a Zidoo.

Here is my feedback on this product:

The firmware is pretty buggy. I am currently in 0.66. With my Panasonic, I couldn't launch Dovi movies, then go find out why by just touching the brightness, contrast settings and going back to HT4 and relaunching the Dovi file where it can read the Dovi. It was a bit chaotic at first (suddenly yes, suddenly no), and almost all the time Films in Dovi play. The image is beautiful I finally enjoy it. Some slowdowns on some Bluray UHD Dovi, but not enough to whip a cat.

On the other hand, the Dovi x265 encodes (lords of the rings, Hobbit, Total recall) pass nickel chrome, the image is magnificent. I don't have any stuttering worries since I only watch FR tracks, and for the atmosphere for me I have more worries by remuxing them in THD + AC3. So I'm no longer expressly in a hurry to have new Firmware (hoping that it continues to work). Namely that I do not use the VS10 engine but am in a car. And you can clearly see the difference on some Movies between playing it in HDR and in Dovi, I suppose it's because the Dovi was better integrated on some than others, like when the 4k came out, at the beginning the master was only upscale.

So after a difficult start the Z9x is suitable for my use. But I cannot explain the why and how of this erratic functioning which improves on its own. I even wondered if the processor has a learning AI unit.

[RESET_9999]

Did you happen to freeze frame compare the resulting m2ts file with the original movie ?

As per my earlier post, I also remuxed LOTR UHD DV to m2ts file via latest tsmuxer (one for each disc), and the resulting m2ts is slightly less bright in the highlights than the original UHD disc.

Both played back on Oppo 203 tv-led to LG CX.

see here for comparison: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/8739

(ignore blown out highlights, this is a camera setting issue)

Would be interesting to hear your results.

He's using the Sony X700, which I confirmed many times to be 100% color and brightness accurate. I don't know about the Oppo player but if there is really a brightness difference, it's not coming from the file created by tsmuxer nor the mp4muxer.
here's old comparisons
MP4 vs disc: https://slow.pics/c/feEmrLAZ
MP4 vs TS: https://slow.pics/c/V994dhhF

[Exovitae]

I have problems with less bright images on the M9702(Oppo clone) too by playing BDMV directory from the network so probably what Reset_9999 is saying is true, its not from the TS files.
My LG B9 internal player plays mp4 DV remuxes way better than the M9702, its frustrating! Comparing some movies you dont see much of a difference but in some there is a a major difference, for example Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets looks so bright and good in highlights on the internal player of my B9 and on the m9702 its so underwhelming! It's set to TV led so i dont know why the difference.

Also i seen that HDR 10 movies in some scenes look dark and highlights are less bright than on the TV's player, in this scenes if im setting the tone mapping option in my tv to off the picture quality improves a lot but then on another scenes picture quality is better with the tone maping option set to on! I think this player doesn't go hand in hand with the TV, maybe is some kind of double tone mapping, one made by the M9702 and one on the TV and this results in bad playback!

[magnetoeric]

Could you tell me how to access this menu on my CX?

http://ltroyalshrimp.com/how-to-get-int ... tics-menu/

Thank you. The menu is different on CX and it doesn't even show the hdr details like it did in your pic (dolby vision profile under general section). Is it because I've connected my shield to my onkyo receiver instead of directly to my tv? I've watched many dolby vision mkv remuxes and I too feel like the picture doesn't look bright at all. HDR looks great though.

[DaMacFunkin]

I have problems with less bright images on the M9702(Oppo clone) too by playing BDMV directory from the network so probably what Reset_9999 is saying is true, its not from the TS files.
My LG B9 internal player plays mp4 DV remuxes way better than the M9702, its frustrating! Comparing some movies you dont see much of a difference but in some there is a a major difference, for example Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets looks so bright and good in highlights on the internal player of my B9 and on the m9702 its so underwhelming! It's set to TV led so i dont know why the difference.

Also i seen that HDR 10 movies in some scenes look dark and highlights are less bright than on the TV's player, in this scenes if im setting the tone mapping option in my tv to off the picture quality improves a lot but then on another scenes picture quality is better with the tone maping option set to on! I think this player doesn't go hand in hand with the TV, maybe is some kind of double tone mapping, one made by the M9702 and one on the TV and this results in bad playback!

So if I am reading this right you active hdr set on your TV?
You should have said that at the beginning.

[DaMacFunkin]

I have problems with less bright images on the M9702(Oppo clone) too by playing BDMV directory from the network so probably what Reset_9999 is saying is true, its not from the TS files.
My LG B9 internal player plays mp4 DV remuxes way better than the M9702, its frustrating! Comparing some movies you dont see much of a difference but in some there is a a major difference, for example Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets looks so bright and good in highlights on the internal player of my B9 and on the m9702 its so underwhelming! It's set to TV led so i dont know why the difference.

Also i seen that HDR 10 movies in some scenes look dark and highlights are less bright than on the TV's player, in this scenes if im setting the tone mapping option in my tv to off the picture quality improves a lot but then on another scenes picture quality is better with the tone maping option set to on! I think this player doesn't go hand in hand with the TV, maybe is some kind of double tone mapping, one made by the M9702 and one on the TV and this results in bad playback!

So if I am reading this right you have active hdr set on your TV?
You should have said that at the beginning, that is why the HDR playback of your internal app is brighter than the Dolby playback from the Oppo.
Just because it’s brighter doesn’t mean it’s correct, maybe you should set the output of the Oppo to HDR10 and let your TV apply faux metadata rather than the true metadata from the Dolby stream.

[pete19]

He's using the Sony X700, which I confirmed many times to be 100% color and brightness accurate. I don't know about the Oppo player but if there is really a brightness difference, it's not coming from the file created by tsmuxer nor the mp4muxer.
here's old comparisons
MP4 vs disc: https://slow.pics/c/feEmrLAZ
MP4 vs TS: https://slow.pics/c/V994dhhF

The Oppo 203/205 is 100% bit accurate.

Both versions of the LOTR UHD movie (original full disc rip and the 3 mins tsmuxer m2ts remux) were played back the same way (over network or by attached USB HDD). Oppo was set to output tv-led, so that in both cases we ensure we get full DV (tv-led) - and the LG CX does show full DV coming in.

I've also switched the order of playback various times: original first then remux, remux first then original - just to ensure it's not the LG CX dimming.

And I've also remuxed the UHD movie to a BDMV folder via tsmuxer, so that the Oppo always plays back a BDMV folder (either original UHD disc rip, or the BDMV folder remux)

In all cases, the tsmuxer remux was slightly less bright in the highlights, as per my pictures. It's almost like player-led vs. tv-led, where LLDV player-led is not as accurate as full DV tv-led.

I highly, highly doubt it's the Oppo. It may be the LG CX (since I did tv-led, so it does the full DV decoding) if the remux file has different metadata

Maybe tsmuxer does not set certain params or metadata correctly, although in the operation that I did it "merely" is copying the streams - although I did do a trim (first 3 mins only).

Maybe it's the trim ?

Would be grateful if someone here who also remuxes UHD DV movies to m2ts via latest tsmuxer can run quick tests on their end and maybe do a picture comparison. You won't see it by eye from memory, it's not that much, but the pictures will show it. Make sure to have bright highlights in the image.

Thanks.

[kievpk]

Hello! I was able to play test files on Android TV Sony xh90 (x900h). First, I tried the Fel to Mel test videos. DV profile 5, profile 7 MEL single layer in mp4, mkv format works exactly. I was also able to make according to the instructions myself from blu-ray uhd BUMBLEBEE to mp4 and mkv profile 7 mel. I looked through emby + exoplayer. Sorry for bad English

[jayper]

I have been making ts files using TsMuxer for playback on my x700. I have been using w64-nightly-2020-10-07--02-32-42 and creating files by using the playlist file from a full disc back-up. Everything works perfectly for Atmos / TrueHD content, but does anyone happen to know why DTS codecs are not being recognized by my soundbar?

Everything that is DTS based, seems to be outputting at LPCM.

[Exovitae]

I have problems with less bright images on the M9702(Oppo clone) too by playing BDMV directory from the network so probably what Reset_9999 is saying is true, its not from the TS files.
My LG B9 internal player plays mp4 DV remuxes way better than the M9702, its frustrating! Comparing some movies you dont see much of a difference but in some there is a a major difference, for example Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets looks so bright and good in highlights on the internal player of my B9 and on the m9702 its so underwhelming! It's set to TV led so i dont know why the difference.

Also i seen that HDR 10 movies in some scenes look dark and highlights are less bright than on the TV's player, in this scenes if im setting the tone mapping option in my tv to off the picture quality improves a lot but then on another scenes picture quality is better with the tone maping option set to on! I think this player doesn't go hand in hand with the TV, maybe is some kind of double tone mapping, one made by the M9702 and one on the TV and this results in bad playback!

So if I am reading this right you have active hdr set on your TV?
You should have said that at the beginning, that is why the HDR playback of your internal app is brighter than the Dolby playback from the Oppo.
Just because it’s brighter doesn’t mean it’s correct, maybe you should set the output of the Oppo to HDR10 and let your TV apply faux metadata rather than the true metadata from the Dolby stream.

Hey, what do you mean by active HDR set on my TV? The tone mapping? The tone mapping on my TV is set to on for HDR sources but when there is a Dolby Vision source in the picture settings i dont have any tone mapping options.
I didn't compared HDR to Dolby Vision, when i said i have a less bright image and less iluminance of highlights i compared Dolby Vision from the m9702 to the playback of mp4 Dolby Vision files played by the internal app of the TV.
Excuse my English, its not my native language and if i miss understood something please let me know, i want true Dolby Vision from the Oppo clone and from the TV i also run true Dolby Vision, there is no tone napping option on the tv when a DV signal is playing.

[shawnc22]

I have been making ts files using TsMuxer for playback on my x700. I have been using w64-nightly-2020-10-07--02-32-42 and creating files by using the playlist file from a full disc back-up. Everything works perfectly for Atmos / TrueHD content, but does anyone happen to know why DTS codecs are not being recognized by my soundbar?

Everything that is DTS based, seems to be outputting at LPCM.

Which soundbar is it? The most likely explanation is that it just simply doesn't support DTS.

[ArArdin]

...full disc back-up. Everything works perfectly for Atmos / TrueHD content...

Which soundbar is it? The most likely explanation is that it just simply doesn't support DTS.

Next to the possibility shawnc22 stated,

Are you sure TrueHD (with or without Atmos metadata) works?
Since you are using full-disc back-ups, I have a hunch that it uses the embedded legacy AC3 5.1 track.

[Roberespa]

-Hello

Help please!!!

Let's see if someone can help me.

I have obtained:
hevc1 and hevc2

Then I have used the MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_MEL.bat tool to get the video merged into a single layer.

With TsMuxer I opened this and made it to .ts

Worse on Mediainfo (updated)


I get this:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Nombre completo : T:\El Señor de los Anillos La Comunidad del Anillo V.E 2001 UHD-REMUX Dolby Vision HDR10\El Señor de los Anillos La Comunidad del Anillo V.E 2001 UHD-REMUX Dolby Vision HDR10.ts
Formato : MPEG-TS
Tamaño de archivo : 57,8 GiB
Duración : 1 h 45 min
Modo de tasa de bits : Variable
Tasa de bits general : 78,3 Mb/s
Tasa de bits genral máxima : 35,5 Mb/s

Vídeo
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
ID menú : 1 (0x1)
Formato : HEVC
Formato/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Formato del perfil : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
ID códec : 6
Duración : 1 h 45 min
Ancho : 3 840 píxeles
Alto : 2 160 píxeles
Relación de aspecto : 16:9
Velocidad de fotogramas : 23,976 (24000/1001) FPS
Espacio de color : YUV
Submuestreo croma : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profundidad bits : 10 bits
Rango de color : Limited
Colores primarios : BT.2020
Características transferencia : PQ
Coeficientes matriz : BT.2020 non-constant
Principios color monitor masterización : Display P3
Luminancia monitor masterización : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Nivel ligero contenido máximo : 602 cd/m2
Nivel ligero fotograma medio máximo : 184 cd/m2


I do not think:
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

Please can someone help me.

It would not hurt if they could make an updated tutorial today. Explaining all the commands.
Hayer spent 4 hours reading and trying everything and nothing.
I'm desperate.
Please help.

Thank you.

[userr]

Does the Zidoo Z9X plays the new mkv dolby vision files more accurately than the Shield 2019 regarding colors? I keep reading about Shield and the problems with DV so i was thinking to try a Zidoo.

Here is my feedback on this product:

The firmware is pretty buggy. I am currently in 0.66. With my Panasonic, I couldn't launch Dovi movies, then go find out why by just touching the brightness, contrast settings and going back to HT4 and relaunching the Dovi file where it can read the Dovi. It was a bit chaotic at first (suddenly yes, suddenly no), and almost all the time Films in Dovi play. The image is beautiful I finally enjoy it. Some slowdowns on some Bluray UHD Dovi, but not enough to whip a cat.

On the other hand, the Dovi x265 encodes (lords of the rings, Hobbit, Total recall) pass nickel chrome, the image is magnificent. I don't have any stuttering worries since I only watch FR tracks, and for the atmosphere for me I have more worries by remuxing them in THD + AC3. So I'm no longer expressly in a hurry to have new Firmware (hoping that it continues to work). Namely that I do not use the VS10 engine but am in a car. And you can clearly see the difference on some Movies between playing it in HDR and in Dovi, I suppose it's because the Dovi was better integrated on some than others, like when the 4k came out, at the beginning the master was only upscale.

So after a difficult start the Z9x is suitable for my use. But I cannot explain the why and how of this erratic functioning which improves on its own. I even wondered if the processor has a learning AI unit.

long post but im not sure if u answered
does it play the new mkv DV standardfiles?
does FEL work?
playing from network?

[ghostshadow]

Does the Zidoo Z9X plays the new mkv dolby vision files more accurately than the Shield 2019 regarding colors? I keep reading about Shield and the problems with DV so i was thinking to try a Zidoo.

Here is my feedback on this product:

The firmware is pretty buggy. I am currently in 0.66. With my Panasonic, I couldn't launch Dovi movies, then go find out why by just touching the brightness, contrast settings and going back to HT4 and relaunching the Dovi file where it can read the Dovi. It was a bit chaotic at first (suddenly yes, suddenly no), and almost all the time Films in Dovi play. The image is beautiful I finally enjoy it. Some slowdowns on some Bluray UHD Dovi, but not enough to whip a cat.

On the other hand, the Dovi x265 encodes (lords of the rings, Hobbit, Total recall) pass nickel chrome, the image is magnificent. I don't have any stuttering worries since I only watch FR tracks, and for the atmosphere for me I have more worries by remuxing them in THD + AC3. So I'm no longer expressly in a hurry to have new Firmware (hoping that it continues to work). Namely that I do not use the VS10 engine but am in a car. And you can clearly see the difference on some Movies between playing it in HDR and in Dovi, I suppose it's because the Dovi was better integrated on some than others, like when the 4k came out, at the beginning the master was only upscale.

So after a difficult start the Z9x is suitable for my use. But I cannot explain the why and how of this erratic functioning which improves on its own. I even wondered if the processor has a learning AI unit.

long post but im not sure if u answered
does it play the new mkv DV standardfiles?
does FEL work?
playing from network?

It plays the MKV Dovi Mel 7 and 8.1 without problem, the FEL not it is the bluray-disk format
Yes I'm in a network, Nas