Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles ?

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HollowMac
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Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles ?

#1 Post by HollowMac » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:41 pm

Hello,

Why forced subtitles which appears in MakeMKV are not appear as forced subtitles in the MKV produced ?

Thanks ;)

dj2hynes
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Re: Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles

#2 Post by dj2hynes » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:32 pm

what movie are you talking about? I'm assuming you mean on blu-ray, cause all DVD subtitles work fine with makemkv.

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Re: Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles

#3 Post by setarip_old » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:21 am

Hi!

In the MakeMKV Titles window, EVERY subtitle stream has a "Forced subtitle" that is checked. This only means that it MAY have a forced subtitle stream. If you leave the forced subtitle stream checked but there is no ACTUAL forced subtitle, it will not be "magically" created...


HollowMac
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Re: Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles

#4 Post by HollowMac » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:11 pm

dj2hynes wrote:what movie are you talking about? I'm assuming you mean on blu-ray, cause all DVD subtitles work fine with makemkv.
For all movies.

MakeMKV creates forced subtitles but not mark them as "forced subtitles" in the MKV which is created.

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Re: Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles

#5 Post by tlfreeman » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:43 pm

Yeah, this (forced subtitles not being created with the forced flag on) and the default subtitle issue (all primary subtitles getting flagged as default "yes") can be easily fixed by mkvmerge, but it still takes time.

The forced flag not being checked only affects a limited number of movies (District 9, Avatar, etc) but is pretty significant and should probably be changed to default the forced flag to yes.

The default subtitle thing I believe is done because of issues with some players, while it inconveniences others who use players like VLC where they must be turned off.

I think an options menu choice of how makemkv will treat subtitles in these 2 ways would be amazing.

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Re: Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles

#6 Post by vernongreen » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:02 am

tlfreeman wrote:Yeah, this (forced subtitles not being created with the forced flag on) and the default subtitle issue (all primary subtitles getting flagged as default "yes") can be easily fixed by mkvmerge, but it still takes time.

The forced flag not being checked only affects a limited number of movies (District 9, Avatar, etc) but is pretty significant and should probably be changed to default the forced flag to yes.

The default subtitle thing I believe is done because of issues with some players, while it inconveniences others who use players like VLC where they must be turned off.

I think an options menu choice of how makemkv will treat subtitles in these 2 ways would be amazing.
I second this suggestion.

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Re: Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles

#7 Post by JustinChase » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:14 am

I would also like to see this handled better. The suggestion above would be a big improvement I think :)

thanks

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Re: Why forced subtitles are not marked as forced subtitles

#8 Post by MikeMcr » Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:24 pm

I would also like to see them flagged correctly - the newest Popcorn Hour player firmware does not work as intended because MakeMKV does not set the forced flags, see here:

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3355

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