Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[lexyz]

Hi guys,

actually have some way to play mkv dolby vision dual layer (base layer and enhancement layer) on lg cx ?

No known way at the moment

[koolkunz]

I can't seem to make a proper MEL mkv for 1917 using either gamma or beta. The generated mkv runs fine on MPC-HC but not on PLEX on my Sony X90H TV (The files starts playing from the start but I cant seek it forward as it gets stuck in endless loading trying to seek the file forward). I have done FEL to MEL conversion for movies like First Man, Aquaman, Atomic Blonde, 13 Hours, Black Panther using gamma/beta and they run fine.

I guess this is something to do with 1917 being hdr10plus also? I tried using the skiphdr10plus command but even that made no difference.

[whiplash1]

I can't seem to make a proper MEL mkv for 1917 using either gamma or beta. The generated mkv runs fine on MPC-HC but not on PLEX on my Sony X90H TV (The files starts playing from the start but I cant seek it forward as it gets stuck in endless loading trying to seek the file forward). I have done FEL to MEL conversion for movies like First Man, Aquaman, Atomic Blonde, 13 Hours, Black Panther using gamma/beta and they run fine.

I guess this is something to do with 1917 being hdr10plus also? I tried using the skiphdr10plus command but even that made no difference.

Try doing it without the audio track. In the second command window, remove the "-map 1:2". That did the trick for me.

[demodemo001]

Can someone tell me If DV playback possible in PC now? i read this thread every now and then but last time was like 2 o 3 months ago... thanks

[palmerwallace]

Apologies b/c I just stumbled upon this issue that I'm having with the inability to play FEL Dolby Vision MKVs via the Zidoo Z9X and a Sony A8H 65". MEL files I have not had an issue with.

This may be a dumb question, but is this something as easily rectified by a firmware update or the Zidoo inherently not an ideal option for Dolby Vision playback? I could move the Oppo 203 to this unit, though I'd rather keep it with my projector.

Thanks in advance. Have been combing forums on Zidoo and Sony to find other people dealing with this issue.

[cuculain]

the issues well documented on the Zidoo site...Mel files with atmos also have the issues

Files have been passed to Zidoo to use with testing and theres hope we should see a patch soon
(zidoo only got the test files like a day or so b4 the .66 patch was released...plus it is VERY early days for this new model,and zidoo have already put out like 5 updates,while in the middle of the Covid issues and big holiday period followed by a large media show they all went to
So theyre not doing too bad

[ghostshadow]

Apologies b/c I just stumbled upon this issue that I'm having with the inability to play FEL Dolby Vision MKVs via the Zidoo Z9X and a Sony A8H 65". MEL files I have not had an issue with.

This may be a dumb question, but is this something as easily rectified by a firmware update or the Zidoo inherently not an ideal option for Dolby Vision playback? I could move the Oppo 203 to this unit, though I'd rather keep it with my projector.

Thanks in advance. Have been combing forums on Zidoo and Sony to find other people dealing with this issue.

Hello, you have to transform your FEL mkv into MEL mkv Profile 8 and play

[DaMacFunkin]

Apologies b/c I just stumbled upon this issue that I'm having with the inability to play FEL Dolby Vision MKVs via the Zidoo Z9X and a Sony A8H 65". MEL files I have not had an issue with.

This may be a dumb question, but is this something as easily rectified by a firmware update or the Zidoo inherently not an ideal option for Dolby Vision playback? I could move the Oppo 203 to this unit, though I'd rather keep it with my projector.

Thanks in advance. Have been combing forums on Zidoo and Sony to find other people dealing with this issue.

Hi,

I would say if you have the oppo and don't need fancy posters and movie walls, use the Oppo for Dolby Vision, these Android players will never look quite as good.

[palmerwallace]

the issues well documented on the Zidoo site...Mel files with atmos also have the issues

Files have been passed to Zidoo to use with testing and theres hope we should see a patch soon
(zidoo only got the test files like a day or so b4 the .66 patch was released...plus it is VERY early days for this new model,and zidoo have already put out like 5 updates,while in the middle of the Covid issues and big holiday period followed by a large media show they all went to
So theyre not doing too bad

Thank you for this. Nice to hear some work is being done to possibly rectify the issue!

[ghostshadow]

the issues well documented on the Zidoo site...Mel files with atmos also have the issues

Files have been passed to Zidoo to use with testing and theres hope we should see a patch soon
(zidoo only got the test files like a day or so b4 the .66 patch was released...plus it is VERY early days for this new model,and zidoo have already put out like 5 updates,while in the middle of the Covid issues and big holiday period followed by a large media show they all went to
So theyre not doing too bad

Thank you for this. Nice to hear some work is being done to possibly rectify the issue!

I provided the Zidoo team two days ago with files with the stuttering problem clearly visible, detailing the problem and its occurrence.
So I think we will have a feedback in a few days, I will keep you informed of their responses on the zidoo forum.

[PlatypusW]

I’m thinking of picking up a x700 to use instead of various android device(s) temporarily until mkv playback is possible fully without compromises (color accuracy/audio output).

Could anyone confirm if the below that I’ve tried to gather from past posts is (still) correct please?

DV playback is possible after using latest nightly tsmuxer (or is it a specific version?) to create a .ts file. This is actually DV playback and not the ‘HDR upscale’ that gets mentioned a lot with x700?

The current ‘quirks’ with the player:

The 100mb/s Ethernet could be too slow for some titles
FF/RW can cause a crash (was the cause ever found?)
After each file is played you have to restart the player to play file another properly

Is that everything?

[baker99]

I’m thinking of picking up a x700 to use instead of various android device(s) temporarily until mkv playback is possible fully without compromises (color accuracy/audio output).

Could anyone confirm if the below that I’ve tried to gather from past posts is (still) correct please?

DV playback is possible after using latest nightly tsmuxer (or is it a specific version?) to create a .ts file. This is actually DV playback and not the ‘HDR upscale’ that gets mentioned a lot with x700?

The current ‘quirks’ with the player:

The 100mb/s Ethernet could be too slow for some titles
FF/RW can cause a crash (was the cause ever found?)
After each file is played you have to restart the player to play file another properly

Is that everything?

DV playback is perfect using tsmuxer (although I haven't tried the latest)

Ethernet is definitely too slow, you'll need a usb drive attached (this is my main frustration)

Yep it will lock up still, requires a power cycle, but the X700 has always been a bit prone to lockups anyway (for me at least).

It still seems the best option for perfect reproduction though.

[RESET_9999]

The current ‘quirks’ with the player:

The 100mb/s Ethernet could be too slow for some titles
FF/RW can cause a crash (was the cause ever found?)
After each file is played you have to restart the player to play file another properly

Is that everything?

you can use this file to unlock the player instead of rebooting it. I'm Currently watching WestWorld, it's still annoying even with that trick though.
FF/RW works on 90% of the movies. the bug seems to happen with the long movies (2h &+) but it doesn't crash, you just cant FF/RW those movies

[PlatypusW]

DV playback is perfect using tsmuxer (although I haven't tried the latest)

Ethernet is definitely too slow, you'll need a usb drive attached (this is my main frustration)

Yep it will lock up still, requires a power cycle, but the X700 has always been a bit prone to lockups anyway (for me at least).

It still seems the best option for perfect reproduction though.

Thanks. I'm okay with external drives for the time being.

you can use this file to unlock the player instead of rebooting it. I'm Currently watching WestWorld, it's still annoying even with that trick though.
FF/RW works on 90% of the movies. the bug seems to happen with the long movies (2h &+) but it doesn't crash, you just cant FF/RW those movies

Wow interesting, I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere. That sounds a little better than a full reboot at least. Thanks!

A few years ago I had an x800 v1 (the one that didn't get DV update) in order to play HDR stuff before it was easily doable (MadVR etc aside). So I'm kind of used to whatever annoyances it has, I remember similar ones back then.

Out of interest, I guess FF/RW is the only way to shift through a title? Can't manually put in a timecode to jump to etc? Obviously chapters are a no go in .ts files.

[koolkunz]

I can't seem to make a proper MEL mkv for 1917 using either gamma or beta. The generated mkv runs fine on MPC-HC but not on PLEX on my Sony X90H TV (The files starts playing from the start but I cant seek it forward as it gets stuck in endless loading trying to seek the file forward). I have done FEL to MEL conversion for movies like First Man, Aquaman, Atomic Blonde, 13 Hours, Black Panther using gamma/beta and they run fine.

I guess this is something to do with 1917 being hdr10plus also? I tried using the skiphdr10plus command but even that made no difference.

Try doing it without the audio track. In the second command window, remove the "-map 1:2". That did the trick for me.

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[M2TSMux] Packet CTS 20020 is less than packet DTS 40040, adjusting all CTS by 40040 / 480000!
[hevc @ 000001c90fae4880] Skipping NAL unit 63
    Last message repeated 17 times
[hevc @ 000001c90fae4880] Skipping NAL unit 62
Input #0, mpegts, from 'pipe:':
  Duration: N/A, start: 0.000722, bitrate: N/A
  Program 1
    Stream #0:0[0x65]: Video: hevc (Main 10) ([36][0][0][0] / 0x0024), yuv420p10le(tv, bt2020nc/bt2020/smpte2084), 3840x2160 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 90k tbn, 23.98 tbc
[hevc @ 000001c912f23180] Skipping NAL unit 62
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] start time for stream 8 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] start time for stream 9 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] start time for stream 10 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] start time for stream 11 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] start time for stream 12 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] Could not find codec parameters for stream 8 (Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle (pgssub) ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)): unspecified size
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and 'probesize' (5000000) options
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] Could not find codec parameters for stream 9 (Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle (pgssub) ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)): unspecified size
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and 'probesize' (5000000) options
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] Could not find codec parameters for stream 10 (Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle (pgssub) ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)): unspecified size
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and 'probesize' (5000000) options
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] Could not find codec parameters for stream 11 (Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle (pgssub) ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)): unspecified size
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and 'probesize' (5000000) options
[mpegts @ 000001c912904680] Could not find codec parameters for stream 12 (Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle (pgssub) ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)): unspecified size
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and 'probesize' (5000000) options
Input #1, mpegts, from 'D:\1917.2019.UHD\BDMV\STREAM\00294.m2ts':
  Duration: 01:58:59.51, start: 11.633667, bitrate: 88678 kb/s
  Program 1
    Stream #1:0[0x1011]: Video: hevc (Main 10) (HDMV / 0x564D4448), yuv420p10le(tv, bt2020nc/bt2020/smpte2084), 3840x2160 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 90k tbn, 23.98 tbc
    Stream #1:1[0x1015]: Video: hevc (Main 10) (HDMV / 0x564D4448), yuv420p10le(tv, bt2020nc/bt2020/smpte2084), 1920x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 90k tbn, 23.98 tbc
    Stream #1:2[0x1100]: Audio: truehd (AC-3 / 0x332D4341), 48000 Hz, 7.1, s32 (24 bit)
    Stream #1:3[0x1100]: Audio: ac3 (AC-3 / 0x332D4341), 48000 Hz, 5.1(side), fltp, 448 kb/s
    Stream #1:4[0x1101]: Audio: eac3 (AC-3 / 0x332D4341), 48000 Hz, 7.1, fltp, 768 kb/s
    Stream #1:5[0x1102]: Audio: eac3 (AC-3 / 0x332D4341), 48000 Hz, 7.1, fltp, 768 kb/s
    Stream #1:6[0x1103]: Audio: ac3 (AC-3 / 0x332D4341), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s
    Stream #1:7[0x1104]: Audio: ac3 (AC-3 / 0x332D4341), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s
    Stream #1:8[0x12a0]: Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)
    Stream #1:9[0x12a1]: Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)
    Stream #1:10[0x12a2]: Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)
    Stream #1:11[0x12a3]: Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)
    Stream #1:12[0x12a4]: Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090)
Output #0, matroska, to 'outputfile.mkv':
  Metadata:
    title           : Movie Title_________________________________________________________________________
    encoder         : Lavf58.64.100
    Stream #0:0: Video: hevc (Main 10) ([36][0][0][0] / 0x0024), yuv420p10le(tv, bt2020nc/bt2020/smpte2084), 3840x2160 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 90k tbc
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (copy)
[mpegts @ 000001c90facea00] Thread message queue blocking; consider raising the thread_queue_size option (current value: 8)
[M2TSMux] Packet CTS 3426943519 is less than packet DTS 3426943520, adjusting all CTS by 2 / 480000!
[NULL @ 000001c90fae4880] missing picture in access unit with size 6717376.8kbits/s speed=0.744x
[hevc_metadata @ 000001c9136c11c0] rbsp_stop_one_bit out of range: 0, but must be in [1,1].
[hevc_metadata @ 000001c9136c11c0] Failed to read unit 0 (type 35).
[hevc_metadata @ 000001c9136c11c0] Failed to read packet.
Error applying bitstream filters to an output packet for stream #0:0.
frame=171176 fps= 18 q=-1.0 Lsize=67434227kB time=01:58:59.42 bitrate=77376.1kbits/s speed=0.744x
video:67428825kB audio:0kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:1kB muxing overhead: 0.008011%

This is the output from the 2nd command window on doing it without audio.

And the resultant file does not play on plex at all (used feltomel and skiphdr10plus switches)