Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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ghostshadow
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darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:17 am
ghostshadow wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:08 am
DaMacFunkin wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:57 am

Hi sorry, should have been more precise, this is in relation to PGS subs on Profile 8 with TrueHD only on the Z9X, I also believe some people are having problems with subs both srt and pgs if they are in the container on some titles on the Shield via Plex.
Spectre (forced subs) is one in particular.
Thank you, but if we only talk about the TrueHD audio track with the DV it causes stuttering only on Zidoo or also on other players.
thank you
What I also know, is that when you play DV files, let's say 07.06 with TrueHD track through TV, it gets down-converted to E-AC-3. And when it does the down-convertig the DV Metadata gets stripped down and it plays only regular HDR.
When I switch to DTS or AC-3, DV playback gets restored. Maybe the down-converting happens also with Zidoo and that's why it's stuttering.
Not in my case because the audio is passthrough on the zidoo and not on the tv but on an audio headset.
PlatypusW
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koolkunz wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:21 am

Can you name the titles you faced this issue with?
For me, I know knives out worked. Push, invisible man, midway didn’t seem to. I think there was one other as well before I stopped and moved to using gamma.
fib1985
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Post by fib1985 »

Hi guys,

actually have some way to play mkv dolby vision dual layer (base layer and enhancement layer) on lg cx ?
lexyz
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fib1985 wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:35 am
Hi guys,

actually have some way to play mkv dolby vision dual layer (base layer and enhancement layer) on lg cx ?
No known way at the moment
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
koolkunz
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Post by koolkunz »

I can't seem to make a proper MEL mkv for 1917 using either gamma or beta. The generated mkv runs fine on MPC-HC but not on PLEX on my Sony X90H TV (The files starts playing from the start but I cant seek it forward as it gets stuck in endless loading trying to seek the file forward). I have done FEL to MEL conversion for movies like First Man, Aquaman, Atomic Blonde, 13 Hours, Black Panther using gamma/beta and they run fine.

I guess this is something to do with 1917 being hdr10plus also? I tried using the skiphdr10plus command but even that made no difference.
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koolkunz wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:55 pm
I can't seem to make a proper MEL mkv for 1917 using either gamma or beta. The generated mkv runs fine on MPC-HC but not on PLEX on my Sony X90H TV (The files starts playing from the start but I cant seek it forward as it gets stuck in endless loading trying to seek the file forward). I have done FEL to MEL conversion for movies like First Man, Aquaman, Atomic Blonde, 13 Hours, Black Panther using gamma/beta and they run fine.

I guess this is something to do with 1917 being hdr10plus also? I tried using the skiphdr10plus command but even that made no difference.
Try doing it without the audio track. In the second command window, remove the "-map 1:2". That did the trick for me.
demodemo001
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Post by demodemo001 »

Can someone tell me If DV playback possible in PC now? i read this thread every now and then but last time was like 2 o 3 months ago... thanks :)
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Post by palmerwallace »

Apologies b/c I just stumbled upon this issue that I'm having with the inability to play FEL Dolby Vision MKVs via the Zidoo Z9X and a Sony A8H 65". MEL files I have not had an issue with.

This may be a dumb question, but is this something as easily rectified by a firmware update or the Zidoo inherently not an ideal option for Dolby Vision playback? I could move the Oppo 203 to this unit, though I'd rather keep it with my projector.

Thanks in advance. Have been combing forums on Zidoo and Sony to find other people dealing with this issue.
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the issues well documented on the Zidoo site...Mel files with atmos also have the issues

Files have been passed to Zidoo to use with testing and theres hope we should see a patch soon
(zidoo only got the test files like a day or so b4 the .66 patch was released...plus it is VERY early days for this new model,and zidoo have already put out like 5 updates,while in the middle of the Covid issues and big holiday period followed by a large media show they all went to
So theyre not doing too bad :)
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palmerwallace wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:02 am
Apologies b/c I just stumbled upon this issue that I'm having with the inability to play FEL Dolby Vision MKVs via the Zidoo Z9X and a Sony A8H 65". MEL files I have not had an issue with.

This may be a dumb question, but is this something as easily rectified by a firmware update or the Zidoo inherently not an ideal option for Dolby Vision playback? I could move the Oppo 203 to this unit, though I'd rather keep it with my projector.

Thanks in advance. Have been combing forums on Zidoo and Sony to find other people dealing with this issue.
Hello, you have to transform your FEL mkv into MEL mkv Profile 8 and play
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palmerwallace wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:02 am
Apologies b/c I just stumbled upon this issue that I'm having with the inability to play FEL Dolby Vision MKVs via the Zidoo Z9X and a Sony A8H 65". MEL files I have not had an issue with.

This may be a dumb question, but is this something as easily rectified by a firmware update or the Zidoo inherently not an ideal option for Dolby Vision playback? I could move the Oppo 203 to this unit, though I'd rather keep it with my projector.

Thanks in advance. Have been combing forums on Zidoo and Sony to find other people dealing with this issue.
Hi,

I would say if you have the oppo and don't need fancy posters and movie walls, use the Oppo for Dolby Vision, these Android players will never look quite as good.
palmerwallace
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Post by palmerwallace »

cuculain wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:16 am
the issues well documented on the Zidoo site...Mel files with atmos also have the issues

Files have been passed to Zidoo to use with testing and theres hope we should see a patch soon
(zidoo only got the test files like a day or so b4 the .66 patch was released...plus it is VERY early days for this new model,and zidoo have already put out like 5 updates,while in the middle of the Covid issues and big holiday period followed by a large media show they all went to
So theyre not doing too bad :)
Thank you for this. Nice to hear some work is being done to possibly rectify the issue!
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palmerwallace wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:14 am
cuculain wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:16 am
the issues well documented on the Zidoo site...Mel files with atmos also have the issues

Files have been passed to Zidoo to use with testing and theres hope we should see a patch soon
(zidoo only got the test files like a day or so b4 the .66 patch was released...plus it is VERY early days for this new model,and zidoo have already put out like 5 updates,while in the middle of the Covid issues and big holiday period followed by a large media show they all went to
So theyre not doing too bad :)
Thank you for this. Nice to hear some work is being done to possibly rectify the issue!
I provided the Zidoo team two days ago with files with the stuttering problem clearly visible, detailing the problem and its occurrence.
So I think we will have a feedback in a few days, I will keep you informed of their responses on the zidoo forum.
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Post by PlatypusW »

I’m thinking of picking up a x700 to use instead of various android device(s) temporarily until mkv playback is possible fully without compromises (color accuracy/audio output).

Could anyone confirm if the below that I’ve tried to gather from past posts is (still) correct please?

DV playback is possible after using latest nightly tsmuxer (or is it a specific version?) to create a .ts file. This is actually DV playback and not the ‘HDR upscale’ that gets mentioned a lot with x700?

The current ‘quirks’ with the player:

The 100mb/s Ethernet could be too slow for some titles
FF/RW can cause a crash (was the cause ever found?)
After each file is played you have to restart the player to play file another properly

Is that everything?
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PlatypusW wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:10 pm
I’m thinking of picking up a x700 to use instead of various android device(s) temporarily until mkv playback is possible fully without compromises (color accuracy/audio output).

Could anyone confirm if the below that I’ve tried to gather from past posts is (still) correct please?

DV playback is possible after using latest nightly tsmuxer (or is it a specific version?) to create a .ts file. This is actually DV playback and not the ‘HDR upscale’ that gets mentioned a lot with x700?

The current ‘quirks’ with the player:

The 100mb/s Ethernet could be too slow for some titles
FF/RW can cause a crash (was the cause ever found?)
After each file is played you have to restart the player to play file another properly

Is that everything?
DV playback is perfect using tsmuxer (although I haven't tried the latest)

Ethernet is definitely too slow, you'll need a usb drive attached (this is my main frustration)

Yep it will lock up still, requires a power cycle, but the X700 has always been a bit prone to lockups anyway (for me at least).

It still seems the best option for perfect reproduction though.
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