Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[ghostshadow]

Hello, here is a test mkv DV profil mel 8.06

https://mega.nz/file/hhxUzYKQ#JZ_i8OpCq ... -hAH27FOKY

Can you give me a feedback and tell me if it goes DV
I'm curious about the return of Shield TV Pro 2019
I know it's playing on Firestick 4k
thank you

[shawnc22]

Hello, here is a test mkv DV profil mel 8.06

https://mega.nz/file/hhxUzYKQ#JZ_i8OpCq ... -hAH27FOKY

Can you give me a feedback and tell me if it goes DV
I'm curious about the return of Shield TV Pro 2019
I know it's playing on Firestick 4k
thank you

if it triggers DV on a firestick, it will trigger DV on the Shield. Picture accuracy, though, is another discussion.

[ghostshadow]

Hello, here is a test mkv DV profil mel 8.06

https://mega.nz/file/hhxUzYKQ#JZ_i8OpCq ... -hAH27FOKY

Can you give me a feedback and tell me if it goes DV
I'm curious about the return of Shield TV Pro 2019
I know it's playing on Firestick 4k
thank you

if it triggers DV on a firestick, it will trigger DV on the Shield. Picture accuracy, though, is another discussion.

test and you will tell me

[userr]

So anyone can point me in the right direction to fix exoplayer as external player for kodi? I know its been mentioned somewhere on all of these million pages, is it "official" exoplayer or modified one?

[KoshIreland]

Hi. Sorry to ask for help in my first post, but after trawling through this (awesome and very long) thread, I haven't been able to find steps that work for me…

Is there any way to convert a STDL MKV file with Dolby Vision into something the LG C8 will play with Dolby Vision? I looked at the test files shared here previously, and "DTDL_FEL_1_021120.mp4" is the only file that will trigger DV on my LG C8.

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Current situation
I have a set of MKVs that went from Game of Thrones Season 2 UHD disc → Ripped to BDMV → Converted to MKV with MakeMKV 1.15.3 (Mac, if that makes a difference).

Here's what I see in MediaInfo:

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Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 52 min 44 s
Bit rate                                 : 62.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.315
Stream size                              : 23.1 GiB (89%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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Problem
I have an LG C8 with an AppleTV. I've had zero luck producing MP4s that play in Dolby Vision, so I figured I'd at least archive the 8 season boxset as Dolby Vision MKVs, get the benefit of HDR10, and then figure out some way get DV MP4s working in future. But, when I watch these MKVs on my LG C8 through the AppleTV (Plex or Infuse) or built-in player (Plex or DNLA) everything is too dark and muted. Blacks are pure black, but the brightest details aren't particularly bright. Details in hair are lost in dark indoor scenes; bright outdoor scenes look "meh". It looks worse than Game of Thrones 1080p Bluray in SDR.

So now I'm trying (again) to get the DV MP4 workflow going, but all my MKVs are now STDL and I can't figure out how to even extract the DV stream into its own HEVC file.

Is there any way to salvage these DV MKV files or am I stuck re-ripping everything?

I'm also wondering, is it normal for HDR10 rips to look dull? All of the Dolby Vision and even HDR10 movies I've bought through iTunes look great by comparison. I want the higher bitrate of UHD discs, but I've no space around the TV to have a disc-based player or a Shield. And there's nowhere to buy streaming 4K GoT on this side of the pond.

[shawnc22]

Hi. Sorry to ask for help in my first post, but after trawling through this (awesome and very long) thread, I haven't been able to find steps that work for me…

Is there any way to convert a STDL MKV file with Dolby Vision into something the LG C8 will play with Dolby Vision? I looked at the test files shared here previously, and "DTDL_FEL_1_021120.mp4" is the only file that will trigger DV on my LG C8.

---

Current situation
I have a set of MKVs that went from Game of Thrones Season 2 UHD disc → Ripped to BDMV → Converted to MKV with MakeMKV 1.15.3 (Mac, if that makes a difference).

Here's what I see in MediaInfo:

Code: Select all

Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 52 min 44 s
Bit rate                                 : 62.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.315
Stream size                              : 23.1 GiB (89%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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Problem
I have an LG C8 with an AppleTV. I've had zero luck producing MP4s that play in Dolby Vision, so I figured I'd at least archive the 8 season boxset as Dolby Vision MKVs, get the benefit of HDR10, and then figure out some way get DV MP4s working in future. But, when I watch these MKVs on my LG C8 through the AppleTV (Plex or Infuse) or built-in player (Plex or DNLA) everything is too dark and muted. Blacks are pure black, but the brightest details aren't particularly bright. Details in hair are lost in dark indoor scenes; bright outdoor scenes look "meh". It looks worse than Game of Thrones 1080p Bluray in SDR.

So now I'm trying (again) to get the DV MP4 workflow going, but all my MKVs are now STDL and I can't figure out how to even extract the DV stream into its own HEVC file.

Is there any way to salvage these DV MKV files or am I stuck re-ripping everything?

I'm also wondering, is it normal for HDR10 rips to look dull? All of the Dolby Vision and even HDR10 movies I've bought through iTunes look great by comparison. I want the higher bitrate of UHD discs, but I've no space around the TV to have a disc-based player or a Shield. And there's nowhere to buy streaming 4K GoT on this side of the pond.

I hope you still have the ripped BDMVs laying around because your best bet would be to follow the steps outlined in the first few pages of this thread with mp4muxer to create DV mp4s for playback via your TV's internal player. Starting with the mkv is theoretically possible (multiple steps of hevc extraction + demuxing), but the effort needed may not be worth the trouble, especially if you have the BDMVs still saved.

[KoshIreland]

Hi. Sorry to ask for help in my first post, but after trawling through this (awesome and very long) thread, I haven't been able to find steps that work for me…

Is there any way to convert a STDL MKV file with Dolby Vision into something the LG C8 will play with Dolby Vision? I looked at the test files shared here previously, and "DTDL_FEL_1_021120.mp4" is the only file that will trigger DV on my LG C8.

---

Current situation
I have a set of MKVs that went from Game of Thrones Season 2 UHD disc → Ripped to BDMV → Converted to MKV with MakeMKV 1.15.3 (Mac, if that makes a difference).

Here's what I see in MediaInfo:

Code: Select all

Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 52 min 44 s
Bit rate                                 : 62.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.315
Stream size                              : 23.1 GiB (89%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

---

Problem
I have an LG C8 with an AppleTV. I've had zero luck producing MP4s that play in Dolby Vision, so I figured I'd at least archive the 8 season boxset as Dolby Vision MKVs, get the benefit of HDR10, and then figure out some way get DV MP4s working in future. But, when I watch these MKVs on my LG C8 through the AppleTV (Plex or Infuse) or built-in player (Plex or DNLA) everything is too dark and muted. Blacks are pure black, but the brightest details aren't particularly bright. Details in hair are lost in dark indoor scenes; bright outdoor scenes look "meh". It looks worse than Game of Thrones 1080p Bluray in SDR.

So now I'm trying (again) to get the DV MP4 workflow going, but all my MKVs are now STDL and I can't figure out how to even extract the DV stream into its own HEVC file.

Is there any way to salvage these DV MKV files or am I stuck re-ripping everything?

I'm also wondering, is it normal for HDR10 rips to look dull? All of the Dolby Vision and even HDR10 movies I've bought through iTunes look great by comparison. I want the higher bitrate of UHD discs, but I've no space around the TV to have a disc-based player or a Shield. And there's nowhere to buy streaming 4K GoT on this side of the pond.

I hope you still have the ripped BDMVs laying around because your best bet would be to follow the steps outlined in the first few pages of this thread with mp4muxer to create DV mp4s for playback via your TV's internal player. Starting with the mkv is theoretically possible (multiple steps of hevc extraction + demuxing), but the effort needed may not be worth the trouble, especially if you have the BDMVs still saved.

Keeping the BDMVs? No, I had the *much* better idea to delete them as I went so that I wouldn't tie up storage space

And then for good measure only noticed the lousy quality when nearly finished

Oh well. Back to the beginning.

Thanks for the help though

[PlatypusW]

Hi. Sorry to ask for help in my first post, but after trawling through this (awesome and very long) thread, I haven't been able to find steps that work for me…

Is there any way to convert a STDL MKV file with Dolby Vision into something the LG C8 will play with Dolby Vision? I looked at the test files shared here previously, and "DTDL_FEL_1_021120.mp4" is the only file that will trigger DV on my LG C8.

---

Current situation
I have a set of MKVs that went from Game of Thrones Season 2 UHD disc → Ripped to BDMV → Converted to MKV with MakeMKV 1.15.3 (Mac, if that makes a difference).

Here's what I see in MediaInfo:

Code: Select all

Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 52 min 44 s
Bit rate                                 : 62.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.315
Stream size                              : 23.1 GiB (89%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

---

Problem
I have an LG C8 with an AppleTV. I've had zero luck producing MP4s that play in Dolby Vision, so I figured I'd at least archive the 8 season boxset as Dolby Vision MKVs, get the benefit of HDR10, and then figure out some way get DV MP4s working in future. But, when I watch these MKVs on my LG C8 through the AppleTV (Plex or Infuse) or built-in player (Plex or DNLA) everything is too dark and muted. Blacks are pure black, but the brightest details aren't particularly bright. Details in hair are lost in dark indoor scenes; bright outdoor scenes look "meh". It looks worse than Game of Thrones 1080p Bluray in SDR.

So now I'm trying (again) to get the DV MP4 workflow going, but all my MKVs are now STDL and I can't figure out how to even extract the DV stream into its own HEVC file.

Is there any way to salvage these DV MKV files or am I stuck re-ripping everything?

I'm also wondering, is it normal for HDR10 rips to look dull? All of the Dolby Vision and even HDR10 movies I've bought through iTunes look great by comparison. I want the higher bitrate of UHD discs, but I've no space around the TV to have a disc-based player or a Shield. And there's nowhere to buy streaming 4K GoT on this side of the pond.

Since what you need is the BL and EL(+RPU) hevc files, you should be able to get what you are after using Yusesope BETA tool (https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 282#p96282) to demux the MKV and then use those instead of whatever you'd get from demuxing the M2TS from TSmuxer.

The downside as shawnc22 mentioned is that you would need to extract the STDL hevc file first before using BETA tool to seperate it back into dual tracks. This can be slow given that it requires two steps instead of one.

If you know how to code its possible to take the method used in Yusesope GAMMA tool, which utilizes FFMPEG, and modify the demux process in BETA / add it to GAMMA to simultaneously extract the hevc stream and demux / seperate the layers out into dual tracks again. But if you don't know this kind of stuff I would stick to either re-ripping the discs or extracting the STDL and then demuxing it (2 steps). I presume you won't be doing this for the entire 8 seasons right now / all at once?

[KoshIreland]

Since what you need is the BL and EL(+RPU) hevc files, you should be able to get what you are after using Yusesope BETA tool (https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 282#p96282) to demux the MKV and then use those instead of whatever you'd get from demuxing the M2TS from TSmuxer.

The downside as shawnc22 mentioned is that you would need to extract the STDL hevc file first before using BETA tool to seperate it back into dual tracks. This can be slow given that it requires two steps instead of one.

If you know coding its possible to take the method used in Yusesope GAMMA tool, which utilizes FFMPEG, and modify the demux process in BETA / add it to GAMMA to stimulatanousely extract the hevc stream and demux / seperate the layers out into dual tracks again. But if you don't know this kind of stuff I would stick to either re-ripping the discs or extracting the STDL and then demuxing it (2 steps). I presume you won't be doing this for the entire 8 seasons right now / all at once?

This sort of coding is probably over my head, but I'll take a look and see if tinkering around turns into some fun. Thanks

I have a lot to re-do, sadly. I'll probably just rip fresh files and start from there. It's a real shame I've to swap in SRT subtitles for the PGS, and losing the lossless audio really sucks. Ten bucks says that just when I've finished doing all this, HBO release the 4K versions on iTunes

Thanks again

[shawnc22]

This sort of coding is probably over my head, but I'll take a look and see if tinkering around turns into some fun. Thanks

I have a lot to re-do, sadly. I'll probably just rip fresh files and start from there. It's a real shame I've to swap in SRT subtitles for the PGS, and losing the lossless audio really sucks. Ten bucks says that just when I've finished doing all this, HBO release the 4K versions on iTunes

Thanks again

It's just not going to be the same even if it's released on iTunes; the audio and video quality will both be inferior. If you have a good sound system that can make use of the lossless audio, I would seriously consider investing in a Shield Pro. Otherwise, losing out on the lossless audio is ultimately not a big deal.

[KoshIreland]

It's just not going to be the same even if it's released on iTunes; the audio and video quality will both be inferior. If you have a good sound system that can make use of the lossless audio, I would seriously consider investing in a Shield Pro. Otherwise, losing out on the lossless audio is ultimately not a big deal.

I have a decent, but not exceptional, Sony 5.1 system. I've had it a long time now and want to upgrade to a good Atmos system, but I've to spend a lot of money to make a big enough leap that it's worth spending money. Fingers-crossed I'll upgrade next year

I think you're right about the Shield Pro, unfortunately. After going back to the source BDMV I'm still having trouble converting to MP4s that work consistently. I did get one file to trigger DV correctly, but the sound was out of sync a few seconds. This fun bit of tinkering is rapidly turning not-fun

[shawnc22]

It's just not going to be the same even if it's released on iTunes; the audio and video quality will both be inferior. If you have a good sound system that can make use of the lossless audio, I would seriously consider investing in a Shield Pro. Otherwise, losing out on the lossless audio is ultimately not a big deal.

I have a decent, but not exceptional, Sony 5.1 system. I've had it a long time now and want to upgrade to a good Atmos system, but I've to spend a lot of money to make a big enough leap that it's worth spending money. Fingers-crossed I'll upgrade next year

I think you're right about the Shield Pro, unfortunately. After going back to the source BDMV I'm still having trouble converting to MP4s that work consistently. I did get one file to trigger DV correctly, but the sound was out of sync a few seconds. This fun bit of tinkering is rapidly turning not-fun

Are you using the older version of mp4muxer? Specifically, it should be one named mp4muxer_64bit.exe and not the latest one on github. If not, you can find it here:

https://mega.nz/file/Jawn3ADa#vN1ai3llv ... ktTQ4uFYkk

[dcoke22]

I have an LG C8 with an AppleTV. I've had zero luck producing MP4s that play in Dolby Vision, so I figured I'd at least archive the 8 season boxset as Dolby Vision MKVs, get the benefit of HDR10, and then figure out some way get DV MP4s working in future. But, when I watch these MKVs on my LG C8 through the AppleTV (Plex or Infuse) or built-in player (Plex or DNLA) everything is too dark and muted. Blacks are pure black, but the brightest details aren't particularly bright. Details in hair are lost in dark indoor scenes; bright outdoor scenes look "meh". It looks worse than Game of Thrones 1080p Bluray in SDR.

Do you have an AppleTV or an AppleTV 4k? I use an AppleTV 4K and Plex. Even when I have a Dolby Vision 4K rip and only get vanilla HDR10 on my setup, I don't notice the issues of things be too dark or a loss of detail. I'm usually fairly sensitive to that stuff, but it is possible I just don't notice. In any case, my setup works with Direct Play, so there's no transcoding.

Are you sure you're not transcoding or hitting some limitation on your plex client? I don't have GoT, but I do have Bttf, 1917 & Aquaman for example.

[userr]

So anyone can point me in the right direction to fix exoplayer as external player for kodi? I know its been mentioned somewhere on all of these million pages, is it "official" exoplayer or modified one?

Is it the modified version or is there now a official release that works with mkv profile 7 ?

[NiCE77]

Problem
I have an LG C8 with an AppleTV. I've had zero luck producing MP4s that play in Dolby Vision, so I figured I'd at least archive the 8 season boxset as Dolby Vision MKVs, get the benefit of HDR10, and then figure out some way get DV MP4s working in future. But, when I watch these MKVs on my LG C8 through the AppleTV (Plex or Infuse) or built-in player (Plex or DNLA) everything is too dark and muted. Blacks are pure black, but the brightest details aren't particularly bright. Details in hair are lost in dark indoor scenes; bright outdoor scenes look "meh". It looks worse than Game of Thrones 1080p Bluray in SDR.

The Apple TV 4K is the worst choice for LG OLED's, because the ATV sends fake HDR metadata (4000 nit MaxCLL, 1000 nit MaxFALL) for all movies. LG uses these values for accurate tone mapping.