Knives Out - US Retail

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therapy80301
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by therapy80301 »

kennova wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:25 pm
Yeah I watched the whole movie, and just now I checked again. No issue like that.
Thanks for checking.
therapy80301
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by therapy80301 »

OK, things I learned through this process:
PowerDVD said my display driver wasn't compatible with Blu-Rays...
1) Don't believe windows when it says you have the latest graphics driver installed (OK, I knew that already)
2) Don't believe Intel when they say you have the latest graphics driver installed (I expected better)
3) Don't believe HP when they say you have the latest graphics driver installed. (C'mon, you made this thing)
4) If you find the latest driver, PowerDVD will play Blu-Rays (on my computer)
5) If you're using the latest version of procmon, the filter you want to use looks like this...
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Thanks
Poker354 wrote:This solution above.
I added the "path ends with .mlps" at the suggestion of another contributor.

The result was
procmon_results.jpg
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Just like a few contributors posted.

Basically matching this MakeMKV
ChrisCaPWN wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:04 pm
Code: Select all

Name: Knives Out
Source file name: 00234.mpls
Duration: 2:10:13
Chapters count: 16
Size: 28.3 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 506,511,519,505,513,510,502,514,507,509,504,516,518,508,515
File name: Knives Out_t90.mkv

6:34:19.9765545 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\02797.m2ts SUCCESS
6:34:25.3467140 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\03340.m2ts SUCCESS
6:34:42.8799731 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\03340.m2ts SUCCESS
6:34:42.8802004 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\02797.m2ts SUCCESS
6:35:06.8384315 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00506.m2ts SUCCESS
6:35:07.8909582 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00511.m2ts SUCCESS
6:35:52.3120919 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00519.m2ts SUCCESS
6:35:54.9246648 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00505.m2ts SUCCESS
6:36:25.9009886 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00513.m2ts SUCCESS
6:36:27.0010794 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00510.m2ts SUCCESS
6:36:45.1229902 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00502.m2ts SUCCESS
6:36:46.3064175 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00514.m2ts SUCCESS
6:37:25.7124633 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00507.m2ts SUCCESS
6:37:27.3484069 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00509.m2ts SUCCESS
6:38:13.0941563 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00504.m2ts SUCCESS
6:38:14.6584158 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00516.m2ts SUCCESS
6:38:34.6663677 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00518.m2ts SUCCESS
6:38:35.7495252 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00508.m2ts SUCCESS
6:38:58.4501001 PM PowerDVDMovie.exe 6624 CloseFile G:\BDMV\STREAM\00515.m2ts SUCCESS
I still don't know why it ripped out of order, but I'll try again.
johnsmith2020
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by johnsmith2020 »

UK Blu-ray (non-UHD) playlist order as below, verified with procmon. This was different to the MakeMKV suggested playlist on Mac OS.


Name: Knives Out (English)

Source file name: 00537.mpls

Duration: 2:10:13

Chapters count: 16

Size: 28.3 GB

Segment count: 15
S
egment map: 520,514,517,512,513,516,509,506,504,510,508,511,518,501,515

File name: Knives Out_t181.mkv
funkounger
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by funkounger »

marchiocar wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:18 pm
So has someone confirmed the right source file for the redbox version?

makemkv gives me this one as the "main feature"

Title information
Name: Knives Out
Comment: FPL_MainFeature
Source file name: 00225.mpls
Duration: 2:10:27
Chapters count: 17
Size: 28.4 GB
Segment count: 16
Segment map: 506,511,519,505,513,510,502,514,507,503,504,512,520,518,508,515
File name: Knives Out-FPL_MainFeature_t00.mkv

but kennova said his was this one.

Title information
Name: Knives Out
Source file name: 00234.mpls
Duration: 2:10:13
Chapters count: 16
Size: 28.3 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 506,511,519,505,513,510,502,514,507,509,504,516,518,508,515
File name: Knives Out_t111.mkv

The thing is, when I play the movie in a bluray player, the main menu lists 16 scenes and the movie has 17 chapters (I'm guessing the extra mouse clicker chapter is the credits which is not listed as one of the scenes) So, it looks like the file that makemkv lists as the main feature is more correct because it has 17 chapters. Is that right?
I checked side-by-side the two files you mentioned and the difference is in the scene that (I’ll try to keep spoiler-free, just in case) contains a phone call in a restaurant.
The file that MakeMKV shows will cut before the camera pans to show behind the caller.
XrayDoc88
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by XrayDoc88 »

I agree that 00628.mpls is the correct segment map for the US Retail version. Why is there no music when the starting Lionsgate logo appears however? There's music when I play the Blu-ray, but there is no music when I play the ripped MKV file in PLEX.
XrayDoc88
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by XrayDoc88 »

OK, I just noticed something. If you just play the Blu-ray disc, the opening Lionsgate logo has music. If you start the movie from the main disc menu however, there is no music with the Lionsgate logo. I guess MakeMKV rips the latter Lionsgate intro.
alex2ker
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by alex2ker »

00628.mpls is correct for the US Retail version.
kastaway33
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by kastaway33 »

can someone help direct me to where I can learn how to use this information to get teh file correct on mkv. Knives out is broken up in many titles for some reason. Thanks
ChrisCaPWN
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kastaway33 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:21 am
can someone help direct me to where I can learn how to use this information to get teh file correct on mkv. Knives out is broken up in many titles for some reason. Thanks
When you put the disc in and open MakeMKV you click on the disc on the left side of the page. It should go through some processes and open the disc, which then displays a bunch of files that are all checked on the left. Right click on one and select "unselected all titles" to unchecked them all. Then click on them to find the Source file name, which in this case is 00234.mpls for the rental disc. You can verify that you have the correct one selected by comparing the segment map, which for the rental disc of Knives Out is Segment map: 506,511,519,505,513,510,502,514,507,509,504,516,518,508,515. If all of those segment number are in the right order for yours, you have the correct one. Check mark that one, select the audio and subtitles that you want, and rip away.
Hopefully that helps. Cheers.
kastaway33
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

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ChrisCaPWN wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:39 am



kastaway33 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:21 am
can someone help direct me to where I can learn how to use this information to get teh file correct on mkv. Knives out is broken up in many titles for some reason. Thanks
When you put the disc in and open MakeMKV you click on the disc on the left side of the page. It should go through some processes and open the disc, which then displays a bunch of files that are all checked on the left. Right click on one and select "unselected all titles" to unchecked them all. Then click on them to find the Source file name, which in this case is 00234.mpls for the rental disc. You can verify that you have the correct one selected by comparing the segment map, which for the rental disc of Knives Out is Segment map: 506,511,519,505,513,510,502,514,507,509,504,516,518,508,515. If all of those segment number are in the right order for yours, you have the correct one. Check mark that one, select the audio and subtitles that you want, and rip away.
Hopefully that helps. Cheers.
Thank You very much for the explanation and info!!
ChrisCaPWN
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by ChrisCaPWN »

kastaway33 wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:55 pm
ChrisCaPWN wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:39 am



kastaway33 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:21 am
can someone help direct me to where I can learn how to use this information to get teh file correct on mkv. Knives out is broken up in many titles for some reason. Thanks
When you put the disc in and open MakeMKV you click on the disc on the left side of the page. It should go through some processes and open the disc, which then displays a bunch of files that are all checked on the left. Right click on one and select "unselected all titles" to unchecked them all. Then click on them to find the Source file name, which in this case is 00234.mpls for the rental disc. You can verify that you have the correct one selected by comparing the segment map, which for the rental disc of Knives Out is Segment map: 506,511,519,505,513,510,502,514,507,509,504,516,518,508,515. If all of those segment number are in the right order for yours, you have the correct one. Check mark that one, select the audio and subtitles that you want, and rip away.
Hopefully that helps. Cheers.
Thank You very much for the explanation and info!!
No problem at all. Cheers! 🍻
cas1701
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johnsmith2020 wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:16 pm
UK Blu-ray (non-UHD) playlist order as below, verified with procmon. This was different to the MakeMKV suggested playlist on Mac OS.


Name: Knives Out (English)

Source file name: 00537.mpls

Duration: 2:10:13

Chapters count: 16

Size: 28.3 GB

Segment count: 15
S
egment map: 520,514,517,512,513,516,509,506,504,510,508,511,518,501,515

File name: Knives Out_t181.mkv
If there is anyone who has the UK retail version of this movie, I can confirm the above details are correct. I tried ProcMon for myself for the first time today and came up with the same answer. :D
arathalion
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Re: Knives Out - US Retail

Post by arathalion »

jaq805 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:01 am
Title information
Name: Knives Out (English)
Source file name: 00628.mpls
Duration: 2:10:13
Chapters count: 16
Size: 28.3 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 510,505,513,512,502,506,504,519,507,518,520,509,508,503,515
File name: Knives Out_t202.mkv
I've got UPC 3139831489980
only change is File name: Knives Out_t184.mkv
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