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The Cotton Club Encore BD obfuscation
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:27 am
by Phrehdd
Though I do most stuff including MakeMKV on a Mac, I also use a virtual of Windows for some other applications. One that I use is BDinfo. The problem is that The Cotton Club Encore is a Lionsgate usual mess with plenty of false lists. The obfuscation is miserable but MakeMKV offers up one mlps as the correct one as the main feature. However, BDinfo suggests another mlps list that is upon fast review, different in which and what order the M2TS files are used.
Is there any sure way to know other than trying each to know what is the correct order of the files? I understand I might be able to possibly provide makeMKV with a bit of info. Which files would I need in particular as I have backed up the entire move to disc?
Re: The Cotton Club Encore BD obfuscation
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:32 am
by rdgrimes
So far none of the usual rippers have got this title correct.
Re: The Cotton Club Encore BD obfuscation
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:11 pm
by rdgrimes
Phrehdd wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:27 am
Is there any sure way to know other than trying each to know what is the correct order of the files? I understand I might be able to possibly provide makeMKV with a bit of info. Which files would I need in particular as I have backed up the entire move to disc?
Playlist # 830 should be the right one. If you wish to make a full disc rip, so far MakeMKV is not able to do that correctly but another ripper can. ScreenPass JAVA protection has come up with a new wrinkle to confuse ripping tools.
Re: The Cotton Club Encore BD obfuscation
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:23 pm
by Phrehdd
rdgrimes, thank you for the response. I tend to prefer the main feature (video, best audio stream and forced sub/sub if required) rather than the entire disc backup.
Rather interesting that MakeMKV and BDinfo both gave different playlists and neither were the one you recommended. Lionsgate can be a real pain.
Btw, the Encore version is not really better than the original release. In fact, in some ways it is worse.
Re: The Cotton Club Encore BD obfuscation
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:24 pm
by bgrngod
I played the BR disk on my TV while having 830 ripped through MakeMKV playing on my PC. I walked in and out of the room a few times, but every time I checked it was synced at the same spot. I was looking over at it every few minutes.
Re: The Cotton Club Encore BD obfuscation
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2026 8:29 am
by dobratzp
For those unfamiliar, this movie is "The Cotton Club", originally released theatrically in 1984. "The Cotton Club Encore" refers to a longer director's cut of the same movie released in 2017.
I can confirm that this is the correct blu-ray title for the movie:
Code: Select all
Title information
Name: The Cotton Club
Source file name: 00830.mpls
Duration: 2:18:55
Chapters count: 16
Size: 40.1 GB
Segment count: 13
Segment map: 510,506,501,508,504,505,513,507,509,514,512,511,515
File name: The Cotton Club_t198.mkv
Note: "t198" is dependent on your MakeMKV settings, but the Source file name and Segment map should match.
There is only 1 playlist for the movie on the DVD, so I checked the blu-ray PGS subtitles against the DVD VOBSUB subtitles and they match.
I believe this is a standard edition from the US, released as a DVD and blu-ray combination.
UPC: 0 31398 31292 5 80
UPC without last 2 digits: 031398312925