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Subtitle help death note bluray

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:27 pm
by NoobageEncoder
So, there is a forced track inside of a normal subtitle. Not sure if this is normal or not, all I know is when I go to edit I only see one big subtitle file no separate forced only.

anyhelp on this would be great here is photo and mediainfo txt of rip, note there there is only one text not 2 in media info.
https://ibb.co/cQWnTgC
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General
Unique ID                   : 81471823959187381848564253730247855774 (0x3D4AE70CC6750E0EB40E39A574FCCE9E)
Complete name               : H:\MakeMkv\Death Note 01 - 08\Death Note 01 - 08_t00.mkv
Format                      : Matroska
Format version              : Version 2
File size                   : 29.5 GiB
Duration                    : 3 h 3 min
Overall bit rate mode       : Variable
Overall bit rate            : 23.0 Mb/s
Movie name                  : Death Note 01 - 08
Encoded date                : UTC 2019-03-13 03:31:28
Writing application         : MakeMKV v1.14.2 win(x64-release)
Writing library             : libmakemkv v1.14.2 (1.3.5/1.4.7) win(x64-release)
Original source medium      : Blu-ray

Video
ID                          : 1
ID in the original source m : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames   : 4 frames
Codec ID                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                    : 3 h 3 min
Bit rate mode               : Variable
Bit rate                    : 16.8 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate            : 35.0 Mb/s
Width                       : 1 920 pixels
Height                      : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                    : NTSC
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.338
Stream size                 : 21.5 GiB (73%)
Language                    : English
Default                     : No
Forced                      : No
Color range                 : Limited
Color primaries             : BT.709
Transfer characteristics    : BT.709
Matrix coefficients         : BT.709

Audio #1
ID                          : 2
ID in the original source m : 4352 (0x1100)
Format                      : DTS
Format/Info                 : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile              : MA / Core
Mode                        : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID                    : A_DTS
Duration                    : 3 h 3 min
Bit rate mode               : Variable / Constant
Bit rate                    : 1 579 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Channel positions           : Front: L R
Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                  : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth                   : 16 bits
Compression mode            : Lossless / Lossy
Stream size                 : 2.03 GiB (7%)
Title                       : Stereo
Language                    : English
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

Audio #2
ID                          : 3
ID in the original source m : 4352 (0x1100)
Format                      : DTS
Format/Info                 : Digital Theater Systems
Mode                        : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID                    : A_DTS
Duration                    : 3 h 3 min
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Channel positions           : Front: L R
Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                  : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth                   : 16 bits
Compression mode            : Lossy
Stream size                 : 1.94 GiB (7%)
Title                       : Stereo
Language                    : English
Default                     : No
Forced                      : No

Audio #3
ID                          : 4
ID in the original source m : 4357 (0x1105)
Format                      : DTS
Format/Info                 : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile              : MA / Core
Mode                        : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID                    : A_DTS
Duration                    : 3 h 3 min
Bit rate mode               : Variable / Constant
Bit rate                    : 1 580 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Channel positions           : Front: L R
Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                  : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth                   : 16 bits
Compression mode            : Lossless / Lossy
Stream size                 : 2.03 GiB (7%)
Title                       : Stereo
Language                    : English
Default                     : No
Forced                      : No

Audio #4
ID                          : 5
ID in the original source m : 4357 (0x1105)
Format                      : DTS
Format/Info                 : Digital Theater Systems
Mode                        : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID                    : A_DTS
Duration                    : 3 h 3 min
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Channel positions           : Front: L R
Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                  : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth                   : 16 bits
Compression mode            : Lossy
Stream size                 : 1.94 GiB (7%)
Title                       : Stereo
Language                    : English
Default                     : No
Forced                      : No

Text
ID                          : 6
ID in the original source m : 4608 (0x1200)
Format                      : PGS
Codec ID                    : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info               : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                    : 3 h 3 min
Bit rate                    : 42.3 kb/s
Count of elements           : 5985
Stream size                 : 55.5 MiB (0%)
Language                    : English
Default                     : No
Forced                      : No

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00:01:25.919                : en:Chapter 02
00:10:46.020                : en:Chapter 03
00:21:26.076                : en:Chapter 04
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00:22:57.000                : en:Chapter 06
00:24:22.878                : en:Chapter 07
00:35:18.366                : en:Chapter 08
00:44:22.493                : en:Chapter 09
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00:47:19.461                : en:Chapter 12
00:58:34.552                : en:Chapter 13
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01:08:30.606                : en:Chapter 15
01:08:51.502                : en:Chapter 16
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01:21:34.514                : en:Chapter 18
01:30:17.620                : en:Chapter 19
01:31:27.648                : en:Chapter 20
01:31:48.503                : en:Chapter 21
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01:56:12.632                : en:Chapter 27
02:06:06.684                : en:Chapter 28
02:16:12.747                : en:Chapter 29
02:17:22.734                : en:Chapter 30
02:17:43.630                : en:Chapter 31
02:19:10.216                : en:Chapter 32
02:29:24.288                : en:Chapter 33
02:39:10.374                : en:Chapter 34
02:40:20.402                : en:Chapter 35
02:40:41.256                : en:Chapter 36
02:42:07.175                : en:Chapter 37
02:53:38.282                : en:Chapter 38
03:02:07.374                : en:Chapter 39
03:03:17.403                : en:Chapter 40

Re: Subtitle help death note bluray

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:39 pm
by Woodstock
So, there is a forced track inside of a normal subtitle. Not sure if this is normal or not, all I know is when I go to edit I only see one big subtitle file no separate forced only.
Not that I found. The 2016 Bluray version of Death Note only has a "full" subtitle track, with no flagged subtitles. Unless they have released a new version (doubtful given the publisher), there are no "forced only" subs.

Re: Subtitle help death note bluray

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:41 pm
by NoobageEncoder
Woodstock did you see the image? where it has the subtitle in makemkv, then under it, it has forced subtitle.

Are there maybe some subtitles with in that file that are forced that I can some how remove?

Don't know how important they are if I had to take a guess it would be for titles and other non English text in show. I have not seen this show was putting it on the home theater server to watch.

Thanks for your time yet again.

Re: Subtitle help death note bluray

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:35 am
by Woodstock
No, I generally do NOT access "shortened URLs", as they are not safe.

MakeMKV will OFFER to create a "forced only" track for all subtitle tracks found, but, if there are no flagged subtitles, that track will be empty, and removed at the end of the rip.

I had both MakeMKV and handbrake search the subtitle track, and no subtitles were flagged as "forced". Again, the version I have is the one that was available in 2016, so it is possible (but not likely) that they re-did the subtitle tracks. Viz Media only rarely publishes disks with forced subtitles; it is one of the more irritating features of their Bleach disks.
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