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Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:25 am
by makini__
That due to fake playlists (and similar “protection” mechanisms) my RIPs are missing chapters or are out of sync etc.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:38 pm
by Woodstock
OK, the already ripped files may be screwed, in that context, if you selected the wrong titles. You would have to re-rip them to correct that.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:54 pm
by Cynyster
John Wick puts a hundred or so playlists in that are all incorrect.
What I learned to do was use "PowerDVD" and "Microsoft Sysinternals Process Monitor" to identify which playlist is being accessed.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:49 pm
by dcoke22
I assume Mike still wants emails when MakeMKV determines the incorrect 'main feature.' I emailed the requested data for Knives Out this morning. I'm pretty sure I found the right playlist from the relevant thread on this forum, but I'll have to watch the movie to confirm.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:13 pm
by makini__
So when playing it back for testing (in VLC for example) it is not immediately clear whether there are issues? The fake playlists can hit you in the middle of the movie as well...? Does MakeMKV update some kind of library to select the correct ones? If so, any chance to see whether the movie I want to rip has been reported/updated?
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:22 am
by dcoke22
If a movie has fake playlists, you'll know it when you go to rip it. Knives Out, for example, appears to have 100 or more various versions of the movie. Most movies only have somewhere between 1 to 3 titles that could be the movie. For example, Léon: The Professional, has two titles. One is the theatrical release, and one is a longer cut that the director calls The Long Version. Lots of Pixar movies or the recent Star Wars movies have 3 versions (in North America), one with English titles, one with Spanish titles, and one with French titles.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:24 am
by Mr_Orange
It would be good though if MakeMKV could expand its database to include the correct playlist for a given disc once it has been identified by users.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:07 pm
by demon
Seems like this works better with Java 8 than with Java 11. If I point it to the Java 8 executable on my Linux machine, it succeeds in finding the "FPL_MainFeature" title (just tested with Requiem for a Dream 4K, while with the system default Java 11 executable it does nothing.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:51 pm
by ranger671
I'll go one step further. I tried openjdk versions 8-16 with no luck, but utilizing java 8 from Oracle worked for Deepwater Horizon, but Hunter Killer and Hellboy (2019) caused a fatal error and makemkv to crash. If there are any suggestions for java variants or versions, I'd like to hear them. In case it is of interest, I am running on Linux with a 5.8 kernel. Shouldn't matter, but who knows.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 6:31 pm
by Jon_c77
HI. New to the forum. I am running into an issue with this frequently luckily to date I have been able to search this form and find the correct version to use. However I am running into a particularly frustrating blu ray (Hell or High Water) I have what I'm assuming the retail version ( it has a family video sticker on it I bought it from a resale shop)and i cannot locate the recommended mpls. So no problem i go searching for solutions, and I see about a dozen different one half of which are old. I see something about process monitor, using any DVD (which I tired and it says it cant use my drive which is weird and frustrating) then I tried jre which at this point I assume I have the right pathway (C:/Program Files/Java/jre1.8.0_291/bin/java.exe) I am really just looking for some guidance, on what to do in this scenario when I am stuck and the forum answers aren't working what do you folks do. Java is my guess i just cant even tell if its working.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 2:02 am
by StormMeows
Jon_c77 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:31 pm
HI. New to the forum. I am running into an issue with this frequently luckily to date I have been able to search this form and find the correct version to use. However I am running into a particularly frustrating blu ray (Hell or High Water) I have what I'm assuming the retail version ( it has a family video sticker on it I bought it from a resale shop)and i cannot locate the recommended mpls. So no problem i go searching for solutions, and I see about a dozen different one half of which are old. I see something about process monitor, using any DVD (which I tired and it says it cant use my drive which is weird and frustrating) then I tried jre which at this point I assume I have the right pathway (C:/Program Files/Java/jre1.8.0_291/bin/java.exe) I am really just looking for some guidance, on what to do in this scenario when I am stuck and the forum answers aren't working what do you folks do. Java is my guess i just cant even tell if its working.
From my experience, JAVA is very hit or miss when it comes to playlist obfuscation. I get it to work sometimes, but a lot of times I have to manually find the correct mpls. I'm not sure why you are getting an error with PowerDVD. I use PowerDVD+ProcMon for ones that I cannot figure out. Did you try restarting your computer? Sometimes I have to restart my computer for PowerDVD to read discs. Playlist obfuscation is so frustrating and I still have my own struggles with the method I described above not working well either.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:37 pm
by preserve
In case anyone hasn't noticed yet, the "new"(est) version of MakeMKV, 1.16.4, was released back on July 7th and is said to offer "Much better support for discs with Java playlist obfuscation."
I've only tested this on one disc so far, but I found that 1.16.4 correctly identified the playlist for the CA Blu-ray release of Chaos Walking, whereas the previous versions did not.
Can't wait to try more discs, fingers crossed for our fake playlist woes to finally be over!
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:32 am
by Impac
Need help with fake playlist "Unhinged" I have the b;lu-ray of this movies and need help with the correct title selection.
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:02 pm
by dcoke22
Impac wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:32 am
Need help with fake playlist "Unhinged" I have the b;lu-ray of this movies and need help with the correct title selection.
What is the correct play list [insert title here]?
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16791
Generally, type the movie name into the search field and you'll probably find what you're looking for.
Unhinged Blu-ray:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23635&p=110749
Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:34 am
by Offler
I recently got Ghost In the Shell (1995) bluray, its edition with both UHD and BD (UHD not supported by my optical drive, but anyway)...
Until about two weeks ago the disc could be played correctly, now it scrambles the chapters... (Lionsgate).